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Any writers on the forum??



Just wondering if there are any writers on the forum that could possibly point me in the direction of useful sites regarding structure etc...

I have been working on two books on and off for a couple of years now.

One is essentially a 'How to .....' type of book and the other is more 'memoirs meets biography meets a collection of thoughts and ideas'.

I have done a fair bit of searching (courtesy of my best friend) which has resulted in some interesting information but alas alot of it is rather non-specific.

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Old 15.07.2008, 08:26
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Re: Any writers on the forum??

One route (for the UK) is to get yourself a copy of http://www.writersandartists.co.uk/
and write to agents (or publishers directly if you know some specialised publishers for your type of book). Send a synopsis and a couple of sample chapters and prepare for rejections.

Writing is easy, getting published is the hard bit...
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Old 15.07.2008, 10:07
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Re: Any writers on the forum??

Why not visit bookcrossing and its' sister site author crossing.

There are many authors there who will be able to give advice and authorcrossing offers help getting books published.

Pop by the fora and say hello.

http://www.authorcrossing.com/

http://www.bookcrossing.com/
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Re: Any writers on the forum??

Thanks guys, some interesting sites there, i will peruse them later when i get back from the dentist.

Getting published is not really my aim at the moment as there is still alot to add to both projects before i even think about sending it out.

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Re: Any writers on the forum??

please do not laugh now at my suggestion ...but what i have done with my own stories and life things...writings and just funny stories from my kids etc, I have taken the writing and went onto www.myphotobook.ch and put it in their format etc etc and had the books printed in hardcopy etc, with pics and everything that I liked and wanted in.
I know...its not very proffesional, bit amateur stuff...but since you mention that you are not look yet at publishing etc, I thought that if you wish to do it for yourself only at the stage, and make it look nice ...do the option where you print it in a proper book form, but still can change etc. I know that you are rather looking at better writing skilsl or something...from what I can gather, but just an silly idea of mine that I did for myself, and it looks good!
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Old 15.07.2008, 17:08
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please do not laugh now at my suggestion ...but what i have done with my own stories and life things...writings and just funny stories from my kids etc, I have taken the writing and went onto www.myphotobook.ch and put it in their format etc etc and had the books printed in hardcopy etc, with pics and everything that I liked and wanted in.
The next thing to this would be to go to a Print on Demand company such as Lightning Source (find them on Google). The costs of printing are relatively moderate, but you get into Amazon and Barnes and Noble etc. That of course is not enough to sell much. But the next step is to make a webiste promoting your book(s) and maybe offering sample chapters for download. It's still not going to make you rich but if nobody else wants to publish you it's the best way of getting your ideas out there. I have several books by authors who did precisely that,a nd tzhat I found on amazon while actually looking for something else.
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Just wondering if there are any writers on the forum that could possibly point me in the direction of useful sites regarding structure etc...

One is essentially a 'How to .....' type of book and the other is more 'memoirs meets biography meets a collection of thoughts and ideas'.
Surely the structure of the book can be anything you want it to be...if you were reading the book how would you want it laid out and structured?

A how to guide is normally step by step...

While your mini biography should probably be in chronological order...

Not sure if this helps or if I have misunderstood your question... would also recommend to get someone to read through them as external set of eyes can put perspective on it and help you find the structure.
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Re: Any writers on the forum??

There exist hundreds of books on writing, but not one of them is capable of telling YOU how to write YOUR book (I know - I have most of them). The best thing you can do is read books in your genre and decide for yourself what works and what doesn't. If it's grammar and punctuation advice you're seeking, pick up a copy of The Elements of Style by Strunk & White - you may decide to ignore the rules of the road, but it's imperative that you know them.

If you're still stumped, try the Marshall Plan. It's not to my taste but it does contain good advice about retaining structure, suspense and a true story arc in fictional narrative - something that is a challenge when combining "memoir meets biography meets thoughts and ideas".

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Old 15.07.2008, 17:47
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Re: Any writers on the forum??

I'm eventually going to finish the book I've been working on since I got here, but it's a bit technical, I guess. When it's done, I'll put it on lulu.com - printed to order for each buyer and they send you the profit you've decided yourself.
Probably won't sell many, but I wouldn't mind a copy myself...
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Re: Any writers on the forum??

One of the best ways to work on your structure is to read. Look at other books of a similar genre, and see how they are structured - something might strike a chord with you. How to books are just going to give you examples - and writing is such a personal thing.

If it's grammar and usage, albeit American English- Sheridan Baker's "The Practical Stylist" is also helpful (I have both this and Strunk and White, and have a slight preference for Baker's book).

You're not interested in publishing, but I know several people who've published books on Lulu.com, and put them up for sale on Amazon - that might change in the near future as Amazon wants to control the print on demand process or something. Lulu costs you basically nothing unless you want to get an ISBN for your book, or some other stuff.

A few years ago self publishing was definitely considered a vanity thing. But more and more people are doing it and it's sometimes a vehicle to an agent and traditional publishing. And the truth is, some of the stuff that is self-published is better than what's pushed out by traditional publishers who might be risk adverse.

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