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Struggling to survive entitlements

Hi everyone,

I have a very low wage itís below 2000CHF after tax and after paying rent I barely have any money for food I barely eat some days.

Am I entitled to any social security as Iím poor here in Switzerland Iíve not been here long
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Old 26.01.2020, 00:50
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Unfortunately for you there is no entitlement for any financial help for you. And unless you see ways of improving your income, it might be smart to keep the option of returning to England in your mind as a serious option.
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Old 26.01.2020, 00:55
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Re: Struggling to survive entitlements

I'm surprised you got a work permit at such a low salary as they usually check that closely.
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Re: Struggling to survive entitlements

The non-profit organisation called Caritas offers free advice to help sort out one's finances and to find out whether a person who does not earn enough to live (so-called "working poor") is entitled to any financial help and, if so, how to apply.

https://www.caritas-beider-basel.ch/...sozialberatung

As you will see in the link, unfortunately they have limited opening hours:

"Wir beraten Sie persŲnlich und ohne Voranmeldung am
Lindenberg 20 in Basel, von
Montag bis Freitag von 09.30 bis 11.30 Uhr."

However, if that just happens to be when you have to be at work, you could try to mail them and ask whether you could please make an appointment at a different time.

In that link there is also a helpful list of documents you should take along. But basically: take EVERYTHING that has to do with your permit, employment, medical insurance, rent, bank statements, regular and unusual bills, outstanding accounts, and debts. The papers should reflect the past 3 or 6 months. If you have had contact with the Victims' Advice Bureau (Opferberatungsstelle) to do with the attack, take along those documents, too, and those of the police and the lawyer and your doctors.

The advisor's job is to try to work out why you have so little money, and to see how much you are working, and what else is going wrong. In that way, they will hopefully be able to work with you to see of financial support can be had, either from the Social Security office (Sozialamt) or, at least perhaps in a once-off sum, from another charitable organisation or foundation, or they could at least advise you about ways to obtain cheap(er) groceries.

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Hi everyone,

I have a very low wage itís below 2000CHF after tax and after paying rent I barely have any money for food I barely eat some days.

Am I entitled to any social security as Iím poor here in Switzerland Iíve not been here long
Seriously Justin, why don't you just go back to the UK?

Every single thread you have started on here is so negative, it does not seem like there is a single thing you are enjoying about living and working here in Switzerland. I really don't understand why you are staying.

I don't expect a response though, as you never come back to any of your threads to interact with the responses. Actually I'm starting to question your authenticity.
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Old 26.01.2020, 07:23
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Hi everyone,

I have a very low wage it’s below 2000CHF after tax and after paying rent I barely have any money for food I barely eat some days.

Am I entitled to any social security as I’m poor here in Switzerland I’ve not been here long
I assume you have contacted the Kanton Social Department of whatever area you are living.

You should have rights to a minimum existence income-somewhere around 3000-3500 a month
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I'm surprised you got a work permit at such a low salary as they usually check that closely.
Maybe initially there was a different job with a higher wage and then there was a change of circumstances.
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I assume you have contacted the Kanton Social Department of whatever area you are living.
You should have rights to a minimum existence income-somewhere around 3000-3500 a month
Minimum subsistence is more likely to be around CHF 2'500 for a single person with no children or dependants. Above 3'000 you're likely to get a health insurance subsidy at best, but nothing more.

A permit is usually granted if total of salary and/or other income is CHF 2'500 a month. Not if it is lower as it would mean you can fall back on benefits.
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Hi everyone,

I have a very low wage it’s below 2000CHF after tax and after paying rent I barely have any money for food I barely eat some days.

Am I entitled to any social security as I’m poor here in Switzerland I’ve not been here long
Anyhow if you have 2000CHF left after rent and tax then you are not so bad off. The calculated minimum amount needed per month is 986CHF for a single.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/ger/gesells...hweiz/45073620
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Re: Struggling to survive entitlements

I read the post as if the salary is below 2'000 after tax from the outset and from that they have to pay rent and everything else, which of course make things a little tight.
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A person here who lives from social help is looked upon by many as a parasite. Switzerland is probably one of the worst as far as this is concerned. And I say this from personal experience
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Switzerland is probably one of the worst
You mean because they don't give out money easily or because it is very attractive to people who just want the money?
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A person here who lives from social help is looked upon by many as a parasite. Switzerland is probably one of the worst as far as this is concerned. And I say this from personal experience
Unless you are a crashing busy-body and someone who makes it their business to find out the state of income of others, then it‘s unlikely you will know who is actually receiving such help.

Having said that, from the number of threads ‘Justintheexpat’ is posting, it really seems his adventure abroad is going from one disaster to another so I agree with Island Monkey’s advice and would suggest that he cuts his losses and heads home to hatch a better thought out plan for life and work abroad.
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Old 26.01.2020, 08:17
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You mean because they don't give out money easily or because it is very attractive to people who just want the money?
They give out money to those who need it. No complains there. Its the stigma thats associated with people who take such money. One could never say that you receive such money to friends etc. It was something never to talk about.

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Unless you are a crashing busy-body and someone who makes it their business to find out the state of income of others, then itĎs unlikely you will know who is actually receiving such help.

Having said that, from the number of threads ĎJustintheexpatí is posting, it really seems his adventure abroad is going from one disaster to another so I agree with Island Monkeyís advice and would suggest that he cuts his losses and heads home to hatch a better thought out plan for life and work abroad.
Believe me. Theres alot of busy bodys out there.
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They give out money to those who need it. No complains there. Its the stigma thats associated with people who take such money. One could never say that you receive such money to friends etc. It was something never to talk about.
I have a friend in that exact situation and she talks about it to me. There is absolutely no shame. It is not her fault at all that she has lost jobs due to closures or restructuring. Neither is it her fault that she has not found a job. Unemployment is high where she lives.
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A person here who lives from social help is looked upon by many as a parasite. Switzerland is probably one of the worst as far as this is concerned. And I say this from personal experience

Oh, and their i was thinking a parasite was somebody who continually posts rubbish on forums.


Thanks for the info Omtatsaty
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Old 26.01.2020, 11:07
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Minimum subsistence is more likely to be around CHF 2'500 for a single person with no children or dependants. Above 3'000 you're likely to get a health insurance subsidy at best, but nothing more.

A permit is usually granted if total of salary and/or other income is CHF 2'500 a month. Not if it is lower as it would mean you can fall back on benefits.
Minimum subsistence and minimum income is not the same.

There is no way they give a permit to enter the country for a job that pays Fr. 2500.00 gross. There is no point bringing people in to live on minimum subsistence although it may happen to a foreigner during their stay here (going bankrupt, after a divorce .... ).
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Minimum subsistence and minimum income is not the same.

There is no way they give a permit to enter the country for a job that pays Fr. 2500.00 gross. There is no point bringing people in to live on minimum subsistence although it may happen to a foreigner during their stay here (going bankrupt, after a divorce .... ).
Yes it is not the same thing. But they will be looking at a minimum of CHF 2'500 income to grant a permit. I'm saying that under this amount a permit will unlikely to be granted. As far as I am aware the income has to be CHF 1.-- more than the poverty line in the canton. This is why it is possible to move to CH with just a part time job.
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Minimum subsistence and minimum income is not the same.

There is no way they give a permit to enter the country for a job that pays Fr. 2500.00 gross. There is no point bringing people in to live on minimum subsistence although it may happen to a foreigner during their stay here (going bankrupt, after a divorce .... ).
Exactly. Iím starting to question whether the OP is genuine or just trolling with all these negative posts he never comes back to
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