If your shoelaces keep coming undone but you don't want the impenetrable double bow knot, make a double-length knot to start (loop one end of the shoelace over the other, then do it again), then continue with the usual single bow.

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Keep all the sachets of silica that come with new products and use them if you have an open box/packet of something you don't want to get damp. Seal the open box in a plastic bag with the silica sachet and, bingo, no sogginess.

Keep the nets that come with lemons and oranges, roll them all together and use that as a scrub.

If your shoe laces come apart you might have done the knot in the wrong way.

There are two kind of knots you could end up if you tie your shoe laces. One which looks tidy and neat and the other which looks like a cow had it in his mouth (wie wenn's ä Chue i dä Schnurre gha hät).

The one which looks tidy and neat is the one which less likely will untie itself.

What is the difference and how do you do it right? The secret lies in how the bunny goes around the tree. The bunny has to go around the tree from the side where there is already 'path' (lace).

See here for pictures (has also other interesting shoe lace knots): https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/standardknot.htm

The yellow lace (bunny), goes around the blue lace (tree) at the side where there is already a (yellow) lace. If you wrap the yellow lace around the blue lace in the other direction you will end up with a mess that falls apart.

Ian calls the the Grannny Knot: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/grannyknot.htm

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I find it easier to use shoelaces, and let my daughter play with her bunny.

Not surprised you turned it into a scientific thing with links and everything.
When I look at the picture thoug, it looks just like 22 yards's? (yards's? That looks weird. LOL)

Nope, mine has an extra loop in the knot. No need for all those fancy schmancy bows and so forth.

As for the possessive of 22 yards: it depends on whether you view my name as a plural (22 of those sort-of-metre things) or a proper noun, "22 yards". If it's the former, the possessive is 22 yards'. If the latter, 22 yards's.

Yep,that version crossed my mind. But I knew that you would tell me.

I'm sure references that say the opposite of this can be found, but...

Just did a 22 yards extra loop with Granny knot on one shoe and a single loop neat and tidy knot on the other one. Will report back in an hour which did better and how many times I had to re-tie.

When going travelling (and not intending to stay in hotels), take along a roll of masking-tape.

A kind of hush has settled over this thread now...

If you arrive at check-in or at the airport gate, and find that the flight is overbooked or delayed or rerouted... and if you are NOT in a hurry to fly, go to the desk straight away and get your name put on the list of "passengers who are willing to be put on a later flight / to stay overnight / to be redirected". That takes off some of the stress.

Once, in an airport, I saw a passanger do this and when he returned into the waiting throng, he announced loudly: "I suggest that everyone else who, like me, does not absolutely have to fly because of urgent family or professional reasons, should just move down there to the end of the waiting area, to leave the space in the front free, so the staff can deal with those passengers whose need is greatest." It was super. A few dozen of us mooched down to the end and - totally relaxed - shared impromptu picnics and stories, played cards or snoozed, until someone organised a bus to take us to a hotel for the night.

This looks suspiciously like a "Viz Top Tips" entry

Makes one wonder.

Remember, just sitting at the desk is not a proper test-scenario.

And do what with it?

Like this one?

It's not pc (woman are disadvantaged) and not up to date with our built in (high up) cisterns.

Funny site, not seen it before.

If you are bored at work and have nothing better to do, go and put a crap post on EF to keep yourself and a load of others busy...

It was a magazine back in the 80s (and later). Some great characters.

It's still going. Patchy as ever.

I'm not advocating granny knots—just the 22 yards extra loop. An appropriate experiment would be 22 yards extra loop plus neat and tidy knot on the shoe of your choice, with a single loop neat and tidy knot on the other as the control.