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justintheexpat 26.04.2020 20:53

Does anyone know when air travel with start again
 
What is everyone’s opinions?

roegner 26.04.2020 20:56

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Depends, there are still daily flights to a lot of destinations.

When/if the previous flight plan will be activated, nobody knows. As long as there are still quarantine measures in several countries......

Guest 26.04.2020 21:01

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To where- as said above many flights are still ... flying.

justintheexpat 26.04.2020 21:04

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To where- as said above many flights are still ... flying.
U.K. Switzerland

roegner 26.04.2020 21:08

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Originally Posted by justintheexpat (Post 3175975)
U.K. Switzerland


There are still flights that way.

Guest 27.04.2020 07:08

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For the UK you're probably asking the wrong question. The correct question is when will the lockdown there be sufficiently lifted to make a trip worthwhile or even feasible in practical terms.

Unless you have immediate and personal needs to go there. But the phrasing of your question doesn't sound like you do.

roegner 27.04.2020 07:20

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For the UK you're probably asking the wrong question. The correct question is when will the lockdown there be sufficiently lifted to make a trip worthwhile or even feasible in practical terms.

Unless you have immediate and personal needs to go there. But the phrasing of your question doesn't sound like you do.
Maybe he is still with his nan in the UK and wants to fly back to Switzerland? Yes, you can, take your passport and your residency permit.

Guest 27.04.2020 07:32

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Apparently there are circa 15,000 people arriving into UK daily from various countries and no testing on arrival. As of next month there is to be a 14 day self quarantine for anyone arriving to UK from abroad. Perhaps a little late and, while authorities will have the power to visit registered addresses of people in quarantine and issue large fines or criminal proceedings, how much checking are they really going to do.

roegner 27.04.2020 07:49

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Originally Posted by Mr Dog (Post 3176034)
Apparently there are circa 15,000 people arriving into UK daily from various countries and no testing on arrival. As of next month there is to be a 14 day self quarantine for anyone arriving to UK from abroad. Perhaps a little late and, while authorities will have the power to visit registered addresses of people in quarantine and issue large fines or criminal proceedings, how much checking are they really going to do.

Probably the same as the quarantine in Germany. Nobody checks that and everyone goes happily shopping to the Netherlands.....

Guest 27.04.2020 09:13

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Any time from now

bowlie 27.04.2020 10:26

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Borders have to reopen, and quarantines dropped, before people will be able to travel.

For VFR (visiting friends and relatives) social distancing rules need to expire.

For tourism shops, museums, parks, restaurants and bars need to reopen.

For Business, Other businesses need to reopen, work from home requirements need to end, hotels, restaurants and bars need to reopen.

Or put simply a treatment and a vaccine are both necessary. The virus needs to be defeated first.

Guest 27.04.2020 13:08

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Originally Posted by Mr Dog (Post 3176034)
Apparently there are circa 15,000 people arriving into UK daily from various countries and no testing on arrival. As of next month there is to be a 14 day self quarantine for anyone arriving to UK from abroad. Perhaps a little late .


... a little???

bowlie 27.04.2020 13:32

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Originally Posted by Mr Dog (Post 3176034)
Apparently there are circa 15,000 people arriving into UK daily from various countries and no testing on arrival. As of next month there is to be a 14 day self quarantine for anyone arriving to UK from abroad. Perhaps a little late and, while authorities will have the power to visit registered addresses of people in quarantine and issue large fines or criminal proceedings, how much checking are they really going to do.

Not terribly relevant as that is another country. 15k daily arrivals is a small fraction of the normal. These passengers are either British, who cannot be denied entry for any reason or special categories like diplomats, pilots, loadmasters and other crew.

The health system is desperately short of testing kits. Are you suggesting that 15 thousand, a day, be diverted from hospitals and clinics for the testing of people unlikely to have the virus. Not only the kits but the technicians to do the testing?

And good luck sending in the cops to test ambassadors and senior officials. That just isn’t going to happen.

The same applies here in Switzerland a bad use of a limited resource.

Guest 27.04.2020 13:46

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The point is- that no-one talked to them on arrival, and gave them instructions to self isolate for 14 days. I know so many who returned from skiing in Italy, France, Switzerland- NO checks, no leaflet, no instructions to self-isolate and what to do if they get symptoms. I also know people who returned from India and Africa, and China- many at my grandson's school in the UK, and at some schools and Unis in Switzerland. NO checks, no instructions- nothing. Some did the right thing, and isolated- others went straight to work or school.

Guest 27.04.2020 13:55

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3176190)
Not terribly relevant as that is another country. 15k daily arrivals is a small fraction of the normal. These passengers are either British, who cannot be denied entry for any reason or special categories like diplomats, pilots, loadmasters and other crew.

The health system is desperately short of testing kits. Are you suggesting that 15 thousand, a day, be diverted from hospitals and clinics for the testing of people unlikely to have the virus. Not only the kits but the technicians to do the testing?

And good luck sending in the cops to test ambassadors and senior officials. That just isn’t going to happen.

The same applies here in Switzerland a bad use of a limited resource.


I am not suggesting anything but merely stating facts. OP was talking about flights and, judging from his other threads, he may want to go for a visit to UK and back. Where it is extremely relevant to us here in Switzerland is if UK citizens return to UK and then fly back to Switzerland because they have residence permits etc. This risks everyone here. 15K people arriving to UK per day and not even being asked to quarantine is a large number when talking about infecting others

Guest 27.04.2020 13:57

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The point is- that no-one talked to them on arrival, and gave them instructions to self isolate for 14 days. I know so many who returned from skiing in Italy, France, Switzerland- NO checks, no leaflet, no instructions to self-isolate and what to do if they get symptoms. I also know people who returned from India and Africa, and China- many at my grandson's school in the UK, and at some schools and Unis in Switzerland. NO checks, no instructions- nothing. Some did the right thing, and isolated- others went straight to work or school.

Yes, this, precisely. Thank you Odile.

bowlie 27.04.2020 14:11

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The point is- that no-one talked to them on arrival, and gave them instructions to self isolate for 14 days. I know so many who returned from skiing in Italy, France, Switzerland- NO checks, no leaflet, no instructions to self-isolate and what to do if they get symptoms. I also know people who returned from India and Africa, and China- many at my grandson's school in the UK, and at some schools and Unis in Switzerland. NO checks, no instructions- nothing. Some did the right thing, and isolated- others went straight to work or school.
And ... Besides the daily mail getting dozens of additional clicks, what actually happened?

The authorities have considered the options and implementing checks, printing leaflets (in multiple languages), telling people to self isolate (when the rules don’t actually require it) doesn’t actually serve much purpose. Do you really expect people to be honest at passport control, when the wrong answer could have them sent back?

Devote limited resources where they will do the best job. And ignore the moans and groans of the tabloid press..Their job is to sell advertising, not to help the medical services.

Information that is available through normal means is more than adequate to tell people what to do if they develop symptoms.

TonyClifton 27.04.2020 14:16

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The point is- that no-one talked to them on arrival, and gave them instructions to self isolate for 14 days. I know so many who returned from skiing in Italy, France, Switzerland- NO checks, no leaflet, no instructions to self-isolate and what to do if they get symptoms. I also know people who returned from India and Africa, and China- many at my grandson's school in the UK, and at some schools and Unis in Switzerland. NO checks, no instructions- nothing. Some did the right thing, and isolated- others went straight to work or school.
Yes, the UK like the US have managed to handle this outbreak particularly badly. The great shame for many of us on this forum, as the rest of the world starts to open up, we still won't be able to travel to our home countries because their governments didn't act in a coherent manner :(

Airports should have been monitored at the very start, now it's too little, too late, and to be honest a little bit pointless.

bowlie 27.04.2020 16:00

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Why are we talking about the UK?

TIS!

Guest 27.04.2020 16:20

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3176240)
Why are we talking about the UK?

TIS!


Hmm perhaps because OP confirmed he is asking only about flights between Switzerland and UK. But why shouldn't people talk about UK is it not allowed

3Wishes 27.04.2020 16:55

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3176240)
Why are we talking about the UK?

TIS!

Because plenty of our readers go back and forth to the UK? :confused:

Belgianmum 27.04.2020 17:10

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Originally Posted by justintheexpat (Post 3175975)
U.K. Switzerland

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3176240)
Why are we talking about the UK?

TIS!

Because the OP was specifically asking about flights between the U.K. and Switzerland.

bowlie 27.04.2020 17:57

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3176271)
Because the OP was specifically asking about flights between the U.K. and Switzerland.

No, actually s/he wasn’t.

And the discussion was going off-topic, from when flights (in general) would begin again, to the ‘failings’ of the UK airports.

3Wishes 27.04.2020 18:03

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3176309)
No, actually s/he wasn’t.

And the discussion was going off-topic, from when flights (in general) would begin again, to the ‘failings’ of the UK airports.

I know we're all going a bit bonkers under quarantine, but take a look at posts #3 and 4. Odile asks flights to where, and OP replies. :)

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To where- as said above many flights are still ... flying.
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Originally Posted by justintheexpat (Post 3175975)
U.K. Switzerland


roegner 27.04.2020 18:03

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Originally Posted by justintheexpat (Post 3175975)
U.K. Switzerland

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3176309)
No, actually s/he wasn’t.

And the discussion was going off-topic, from when flights (in general) would begin again, to the ‘failings’ of the UK airports.

That is how it started :-)

And OP had mentioned a while ago he was visiting his nan in the UK.

Those failings are everywhere probably.


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