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Old 08.06.2020, 00:24
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They say that sounds of nature make people happier.....
They do. I never understand people complaining about frogs quaking and all these animal sounds one hardly hears anymore.

I make one exception: The high pitched sound of a mosquito drives me nuts.
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Old 08.06.2020, 00:55
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No to Fireworks? A firearm in this country requires lower cost than an appropriately dangerous raptor, have decent resale value and require no 2 year course. Although shooting things out your window might result in the forced resale and some new accommodation for yourself.
Definitely no to fireworks! It was around 1st of August, could have been 3 years ago if I remember correctly and I briefly went to Coop. As I stepped out of the Modmobile and proceeded to enter the premises, I got one of those "Hey, psst, you, yes you!" This made me curious, as I'm always up for a good deal. Anyways, he told me, that he had bought to many fireworks and that a few ones were to large to be deployed where he lived. He inquired if I was interested. Now, too large fireworks, of course I'm interested and so he pops the trunk and he had an arsenal, I mean he by himself could have easily invaded Liechtenstein. So I picked me the largest rocket for 10 bucks. I forgot what it was called...but I vaguely remember something along the lines of Star and Hammer and that I had to lay it diagonally sideways in the Modmobile for it to fit. Anyways, I went home and it was around 9ish or so and I was just itching to deploy the Star Hammer or whatever it was called. I went around the apartment in the communal backyard. I thought that I had planted the Star Hammer firmly into the ground. . . which wasn't the case and after lighting up the lunt, the Star Hammer tilted and fell to the ground. Luckily for me, it fell in the direction of the bushes but I got the hell out of dodge. The Star Hammer went out with a huge bang and it lit up the sky and the bushes like the 4th of July.

Then on new years eve, I couldn't find the guy who sold me the Star Hammer and I went the conventional route. I stopped by one of those tents which sell fireworks and asked them for the most bang for my buck. Obviously, I couldn't afford a Hammer Star the conventional way so I got me a few things that go bang and a few things that just smoke everything up. Around 23:30 or so, we decendet to the street and I was ready to deploy my budget bang and budget smoke. Long story short, the owner of a nearby restaurant came out totally inebriated, fell over garbage bags filled with empty bottles, got up and started yelling, that if I would light up another firework, that he'd go get his gun and shoot everybody. I will omit how the story ended.

Sooo yeah, I'm not allowed near fireworks anymore.
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Old 08.06.2020, 05:59
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Then on new years eve, I couldn't find the guy who sold me the Star Hammer and I went the conventional route. I stopped by one of those tents which sell fireworks and asked them for the most bang for my buck. Obviously, I couldn't afford a Hammer Star the conventional way so I got me a few things that go bang and a few things that just smoke everything up. Around 23:30 or so, we decendet to the street and I was ready to deploy my budget bang and budget smoke. Long story short, the owner of a nearby restaurant came out totally inebriated, fell over garbage bags filled with empty bottles, got up and started yelling, that if I would light up another firework, that he'd go get his gun and shoot everybody. I will omit how the story ended.

Sooo yeah, I'm not allowed near fireworks anymore.
That's because here people usually take the firework thinggy somewhere on a field not in the street.

He might have been inebriated and aggressive as hell, but he did have a point.

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They do. I never understand people complaining about frogs quaking and all these animal sounds one hardly hears anymore.

I make one exception: The high pitched sound of a mosquito drives me nuts.
Frogs are "disgusting" (meaning I personally don't like the sounds they make, nothing more, each to their own etc etc etc), grasshoppers on the other hand....
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Old 08.06.2020, 08:43
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...although I did find one online in Bucharest for 350 EUR but they don't ship.
Have you tried/suggested air mail?
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Re: LIB's owl debacle. . . need help

Owls like the cover of darkness. I suggest you mount a small, LED flashlight on a tripod, by the window, pointed at the tree. If you leave it there, pointing at the nest, the owl might take a disliking for the spot and move out. Alternatively (or additionally) you can put a reflective dog collar in his favourite branch. A more extreme measure would be a strobe collar (preferably those that activate automatically when it's dark enough). But this means YOU have to climb the tree.
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Old 08.06.2020, 09:34
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Re: LIB's owl debacle. . . need help

These are mating calls from the male. Wait till his honey is found, the music from their joyous copulative moments will either cause you to jump out of your window or poke a rusty screwdriver into your eardrums. Try to be thankful for small mercies and count your blessings instead. My motto has always been 'make love, not war' and it has served me well so far. *grin*
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Old 08.06.2020, 10:09
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Have you tried/suggested air mail?


A good one.

That was a DBesque attempt at humour, LiB is not really good at that.

Ah, I miss the original. Douglas' Breakfast. He left EF with the others, what a shame.


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Owls like the cover of darkness. I suggest you mount a small, LED flashlight on a tripod, by the window, pointed at the tree. If you leave it there, pointing at the nest, the owl might take a disliking for the spot and move out. Alternatively (or additionally) you can put a reflective dog collar in his favourite branch. A more extreme measure would be a strobe collar (preferably those that activate automatically when it's dark enough). But this means YOU have to climb the tree.
Since we're here...does anyone have any advice about how to deter wasps from making a nest on one's window? Seriously, we had 2 attempts* so far and I bet this summer won't be any different.

*those were gigantic wasps nests actually and after destroying the first one we thought we're done....

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Old 08.06.2020, 10:32
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These are mating calls from the male. Wait till his honey is found, the music from their joyous copulative moments will either cause you to jump out of your window or poke a rusty screwdriver into your eardrums. Try to be thankful for small mercies and count your blessings instead. My motto has always been 'make love, not war' and it has served me well so far. *grin*

This happened with ravens a couple weeks ago I was working and listened to some strong agitated raven noises. Went to the balcony to see what happened and saw some feathers flying around. I assumed the falcon just had lunch and was getting back to the computer when I listened once again to the raven.....turned around and learned they also experience some type of little agony.
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Old 08.06.2020, 11:55
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Since we're here...does anyone have any advice about how to deter wasps from making a nest on one's window? Seriously, we had 2 attempts* so far and I bet this summer won't be any different.
I have some first-hand experience there. Apparently wasps have a very sharp scent of smell, and there are some plants (very fragrant ones) that they hate. After a few summers I finally found the plants that keep them away: mint, and thyme. I read that wormwood also works, but I haven't tried growing it yet. Marigolds are also a good deterring plant against wasps, but bees kindda like it.

if your window is too high, you can try installing those balcony-box planters (there are many types around here, from rigid, permanent ones, to flexible bag-like ones).
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I have some first-hand experience there. Apparently wasps have a very sharp scent of smell, and there are some plants (very fragrant ones) that they hate. After a few summers I finally found the plants that keep them away: mint, and thyme. I read that wormwood also works, but I haven't tried growing it yet. Marigolds are also a good deterring plant against wasps, but bees kindda like it.

if your window is too high, you can try installing those balcony-box planters (there are many types around here, from rigid, permanent ones, to flexible bag-like ones).
Thank you so much, Caleb. Very interesting. Mint and thyme shall be!
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Old 08.06.2020, 13:11
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Re: LIB's owl debacle. . . need help

Referring to roegner's tip who said she was successful with it:
No need to tape it. You can play it from here. Worth a try. Your owl is gonna be rather spooked by all the types having gathered around it all of a sudden.

PS: My garden went all quiet while I checked that video.
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Old 08.06.2020, 13:22
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I have some first-hand experience there. Apparently wasps have a very sharp scent of smell, and there are some plants (very fragrant ones) that they hate. After a few summers I finally found the plants that keep them away: mint, and thyme. I read that wormwood also works, but I haven't tried growing it yet. Marigolds are also a good deterring plant against wasps, but bees kindda like it.

if your window is too high, you can try installing those balcony-box planters (there are many types around here, from rigid, permanent ones, to flexible bag-like ones).
Lavender works as well.
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Lavender works as well.
We LOOOOOVE lavender, but they grow a LOT, and attract a ton of bees. We do plant bee-feeding plants (key to our ecosystems), but not around windows or pathways.
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Referring to roegner's tip who said she was successful with it:
No need to tape it. You can play it from here. Worth a try. Your owl is gonna be rather spooked by all the types having gathered around it all of a sudden.

PS: My garden went all quiet while I checked that video.
Thank you, thank you, thank you roegner, and curley!

Before those nervous canaries were acquired by the neighbour, our street was full of birdsong, and it was lovely. Since they've moved in, the other birds seem to have moved out, moved on, fallen into a depression, given up the ghost, or they're just further away from me than the piercing, shrill chirp that blocks out all else.

That video worked so well, instantly resulting in the first little snippet of quiet, for weeks.
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Old 08.06.2020, 20:07
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Thank you, thank you, thank you roegner, and curley!

Before those nervous canaries were acquired by the neighbour, our street was full of birdsong, and it was lovely. Since they've moved in, the other birds seem to have moved out, moved on, fallen into a depression, given up the ghost, or they're just further away from me than the piercing, shrill chirp that blocks out all else.

That video worked so well, instantly resulting in the first little snippet of quiet, for weeks.

Can you square giving these birds a trauma for life with your conscience?
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Well, I don't know. I guess tomorrow will tell how well they are.
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Since we're here...does anyone have any advice about how to deter wasps from making a nest on one's window? Seriously, we had 2 attempts* so far and I bet this summer won't be any different.

*those were gigantic wasps nests actually and after destroying the first one we thought we're done....
Not sure if the question was meant seriously or in jest, but in my experience, wasps are quite easy to deter, as long as you get in early enough and it's just the queen or maybe the queen and her first couple of workers, but they are still too few to feel safe enough to get aggressive at you. Wake them up with a flashlight once every night so they can't sleep and put stuff right next to the nest and keep on moving stuff every day or so. Stuff like tinsel or mirrors annoys them quite a lot. They typically give up within two days and find somewhere else to build a new nest, with no stings or injuries to you.
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Re: LIB's owl debacle. . . need help

Can I extend this thread on how to get rid of a family of doves?

In one of my times during lockdown, I was on my roof, and noticed that the dove couple opposite that settled every year (it only occurred to me recently that it might not be the same couple - got that) on the roof opposite, were collecting sticks for nesting.

And I noticed, while playing tennis on the roof during lockdown without a ball or partner, that I could feed them sticks for their nest, and they would come back and pick them up. At the time, I thought that this is one of the wonders you experience under lockdown.

But now, there is clearly a dove nest in the attic above my flat whose lovable cooing awakens me exactly at sunrise (which can be pretty early in Summer)

Sorry, correction, don't want to get rid of them, just want to learn how to wake-up really, really early. Will do me good in the long-run, I'm sure...
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Old 08.06.2020, 21:41
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Re: LIB's owl debacle. . . need help

Contact these people, very friendly... https://greifvogelstation.ch/

if this owl needs to be saved from firework toting EFers, I am sure they would come and take it off your hands or at the very least offer some advice how to proceed.

https://greifvogelstation.ch/greifvo...ogel-gefunden/
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Re: LiB's owl debacle or How to get rid of (insert animal of choice)

Seeing as everybody seems to have some sort of animal they're trying to get rid of, I decided to change the thread title.
Now let's see what other species fellow EFers seem to have a problem with.
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