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Electrical plugs are polarized here
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Old 01.08.2020, 12:48
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Electrical plugs are polarized here (but not in Italy, Germany, or France), so why not society?

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Amusing...is changing polarity at the rate 50/60Hz, as in those countries you mention...In Confederation Helvetica as in the UK the phase was marked for safety reasons only...
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Electrical plugs are polarized here (but not in Italy, Germany, or France), so why not society?

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Lot's of things are different here than elsewhere, I like it.

It doesn't seem to be a cancel culture here, different or unusual voices have their place here.
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Old 01.08.2020, 13:15
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Nothing near to my reality...I did get what you mean: don't stir the calm waters that we made for so long...you said I am a provocateur, that is far from real...I was provocated by Trump, Brexit, Corona threads...my posts are the answer to those who are pleasing the media owned by billioners...
Brexit, Trump, affect many people's lives. It's natural to discuss them, sorry if you found them provocative.

As for Corona thread(s) most people try to keep up with what's been discussed at more official levels, and yes, that involves the media too. I think it's safer to follow official recommendations, not everyone is inclined to look for alternative answers/explanations.
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Old 01.08.2020, 13:42
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

How about this...

Have any of you considered reading books about psychology? How these books describe the ego and role it plays in life is frankly fascinating. There is also a wealth of information in some of these books about how the mind/brain fools us, edits our memories to suit our current beliefs and so on.

But it does require the reader to be brutally honest with themselves. Although I must warn you, much of the content can be a little scary, certainly for many on this forum. The ego does not like to be told it is just plain wrong.

There are authors out there who care deeply about the problems and joy in this world. And they have devoted their life to unlocking the answers to life’s serious questions. 1 book that springs to mind is the one titled “you are not as smart as you think you are.” All the content, all of it is backed up by studies from top international universities.

Please understand that the issues that we all have, are shared by countless others around the world.

My current interest is the problem of corporate life favoring rather brutal types, that in the past did not have the opportunity to rise due to the class structure dominating who gets promoted and who doesn’t. Today there is, in some countries, like SUI, England, America, Australia etc, a golden opportunity for psychopaths to rocket up to top positions without the help of family wealth.

I just see a lot of posters who, like me when I was younger, not yet understanding what makes us tick and what feeds our egos.

And the ego is a good thing. It separates you from all others. The individual.

This is why I dont get wound-up with some of the posts here. We are all learning and on a different road in life. Which road is better? You see my point?

Life is a school. Some students are weighed down by wicked DNA and others are not and cruise along.

Good posts here. Thank you ALL

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Old 01.08.2020, 13:55
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There is a world of difference between posting to deliberately provoke and simply having a difference of opinion.
The world would be a very boring place if everybody agreed about everything. The important thing is to be able to discuss our opinions in a calm and rational manner without resorting to insults.

Sadly some people seem to post solely to provoke and get a reaction.
True. The trick now is to figure out why this happens with people. Yes? But there is no sadness in the answer. It actually makes perfect sense.
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Old 01.08.2020, 20:05
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

For me there is a definite sadness. I feel sad for those who post solely (or mainly) to provoke, to brag or to get an irritated reaction, although I grant that they must be enjoying something about the ride, for them to persist.

Although I know that all groups wax and wain, and people just go when they find the environment too toxic, I'm deeply sad, particularly with regard to EF, that this very behaviour of provocation has resulted in something of an exodus.

Over the past months, quite a number of long-term, contributing EF members have left, and I'm sad about that. Some have left in frustration, some having been hurt. Some left simply in boredom, having determined that the repetitiveness of the way the discussions deteriorate as soon as those wanting to provoke do so, over and over again, was just not worth spending their energy upon.

This saddens me.

Those who have left are not a homogenous group, and some of them didn't even particularly get along very closely while they were here on the Forum. But one by one they left, and as far as I can understand it, it was largely because of exactly this mechanism.

I'd like to see the Forum continue, and it probably will. After all, it is a business, and The Local can keep it up and running as long as it yields revenue from ads, etc..

I'd like to see it continue well. I'd like it to be a good place, a healthy place.

Perhaps enough new people will come along: interested, interesting, engaging, willing to learn, compassionate, and able to conduct themselves civilly in a discussion with people whose opinions differ from theirs, and will enrich EF.

Whether or not they will want to stay will, at least in part, be a function of how many more rounds we have of the threads chugging their way downhill because of those whose primary way of interacting is to be oppositional.

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Old 01.08.2020, 20:12
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Amusing...is changing polarity at the rate 50/60Hz, as in those countries you mention...In Confederation Helvetica as in the UK the phase was marked for safety reasons only...
You clearly know nothing about electrical wiring, nor engineering.

Polarity is live/neutral, not +/-.

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Old 01.08.2020, 20:33
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You clearly know nothing about electrical wiring, nor engineering.

Polarity is live/neutral, not +/-.

Tom
In first post I thought you are just joking, but now I understand that you don't have a clue...I even don't bother to explain to you, as is no point...I am engeenier...
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Old 01.08.2020, 20:50
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I am engeenier...
Clearly not a very good one, and with poor language skills to boot!

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Old 01.08.2020, 20:58
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You clearly know nothing about electrical wiring, nor engineering.

Polarity is live/neutral, not +/-.

Tom
how would you call +/- then?
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Old 01.08.2020, 21:02
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In first post I thought you are just joking, but now I understand that you don't have a clue...I even don't bother to explain to you, as is no point...I am engeenier...
I did etch my first PCB at the age of 12, my first Trigger with 2 transistors, 2 resistors, 2 capacitors, 2 LED...I don't want to mention that previously...yes I get a gold medal for that...yes dear doropfiz I have my cupboard of golden medals...
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Old 01.08.2020, 21:15
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Clearly not a very good one, and with poor language skills to boot!

Tom
I did post previously about my language skills...my poor English grammatic doesn't have any interaction with my engineering skills...even didn't stop to get me British citizenship...if I will post in french will be same...belive me in Britain 85% of the population doesn't have a clue about grammatic...
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Old 01.08.2020, 22:44
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For me there is a definite sadness. I feel sad for those who post solely (or mainly) to provoke, to brag or to get an irritated reaction, although I grant that they must be enjoying something about the ride, for them to persist.

Although I know that all groups wax and wain, and people just go when they find the environment too toxic, I'm deeply sad, particularly with regard to EF, that this very behaviour of provocation has resulted in something of an exodus.

Over the past months, quite a number of long-term, contributing EF members have left, and I'm sad about that. Some have left in frustration, some having been hurt. Some left simply in boredom, having determined that the repetitiveness of the way the discussions deteriorate as soon as those wanting to provoke do so, over and over again, was just not worth spending their energy upon.

This saddens me.

Those who have left are not even a homogenous group, and some of them didn't even particularly get along very closely while they were here on the Forum. But one by one they left, and as far as I can understand it, it was largely because of exactly this mechanism.

I'd like to see the Forum continue, and it probably will. After all, it is a business, and The Local can keep it up and running as long as it yields revenue from ads, etc..

I'd like to see it continue well. I'd like it to be a good place, a healthy place.

Perhaps enough new people will come along: interested, interesting, engaging, willing to learn, compassionate, and able to conduct themselves civilly in a discussion with people whose opinions differ from theirs, and will enrich EF.

Whether or not they will want to stay will, at least in part, be a function of how many more rounds we have of the threads chugging their way downhill because of those whose primary way of interacting is to be oppositional.
I still not getting...I have to chock in my tongue and let the others decide my fate?...what about those who sacrificed them lifes previously for the progress of humanity, do we forget their sacrifice...
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Old 01.08.2020, 23:00
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I still not getting...I have to chock in my tongue and let the others decide my fate?...what about those who sacrificed them lifes previously for the progress of humanity, do we forget their sacrifice...
Just reread what Doropfiz wrote, just reread it....... until you understand what she said
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Old 01.08.2020, 23:26
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Just reread what Doropfiz wrote, just reread it....... until you understand what she said
I did read it many times...I understand all that she meant...but still that is the call for uniformity in opinions...but on this forum, uniformity is contradicting with my opinion...or to said I am not welcome on the forum because my opinion is radical to others...I am promising that I will not write anymore about sensible subjects...
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You clearly know nothing about electrical wiring, nor engineering.

Polarity is live/neutral, not +/-.

Tom
I'm sure you are right as regards the conventional terminology used in electronics (of which I'm completely ignorant) - but in chemistry we use the term "polarity" to refer to charge - so it's not completely unprecedented.
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Old 01.08.2020, 23:46
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I did read it many times...I understand all that she meant...but still that is the call for uniformity in opinions...but on this forum, uniformity is contradicting with my opinion...or to said I am not welcome on the forum because my opinion is radical to others...I am promising that I will not write anymore about sensible subjects...
That is not what she wrote.......
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...but still that is the call for uniformity in opinions...
It doesn't mean that you need to be uniform. Your voice is as valid as others'. Your medals, achievements and happiness are as welcome as are your mishaps, questions and dilemmas.

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I still not getting...I have to chock in my tongue and let the others decide my fate?...what about those who sacrificed them lifes previously for the progress of humanity, do we forget their sacrifice...
That is not at all what she’s saying.

Try reading it again as you have totally misunderstood her point.
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