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Old 02.08.2020, 08:52
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I'm sure you are right as regards the conventional terminology used in electronics (of which I'm completely ignorant) - but in chemistry we use the term "polarity" to refer to charge - so it's not completely unprecedented.
https://acworks.com/blogs/ac-works-c...ctrical-safety

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how would you call +/- then?
DC, once there's a current.

Tom's talking about AC.
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Old 02.08.2020, 12:36
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I did read it many times...I understand all that she meant...but still that is the call for uniformity in opinions...but on this forum, uniformity is contradicting with my opinion...or to said I am not welcome on the forum because my opinion is radical to others...I am promising that I will not write anymore about sensible subjects...
You clearly didnít understand anything at all.
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Old 02.08.2020, 12:57
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I did read it many times...I understand all that she meant...but still that is the call for uniformity in opinions...but on this forum, uniformity is contradicting with my opinion...or to said I am not welcome on the forum because my opinion is radical to others...I am promising that I will not write anymore about sensible subjects...
I don't see any uniformity on the threads you mentioned to be provocative for you. On none of them.
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DC, once there's a current.

Tom's talking about AC.
there is always current in a closed circuit with power source
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Old 02.08.2020, 15:42
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

Then that link proved what I said previously, it was marked as hot wire(US name for phase) for safety reason, same in CH and UK, after RCD was introduced in fuse boards pushed by EU regulation, no sense for triple plug and thiker rod...Real meaning for polarisation is when you have +/-, in AC current in the household, polarisation is changing between "live" and "neutral" at the 50/60 times per second(Hz), this was agreed internationally after Tesla with Edison helped to introduce AC current in US to reduce the loss of power on the wire when it was transmitted through the DC current...the rate was estabilished to 50/60Hz as the human eye start to fill difference on the bulbs at 24Hz, if is lower than 24Hz you'l start see the bulb blinking...to make constant polarization on wire(DC) you will need to connect a bridge of 4 diodes to the AC and after youl gain the constant polarization...that why when you come in CH with European plug, no matter how you turn your device will work...
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

Why? Because of party politics. The opposition party spend all their energy discrediting the ruling party, and when power switches hands the same thing happens in the other direction. That's your polarity right there, and both parties need it to keep themselves in power.

Luckily in Switzerland we have a multi party coalition and a direct democracy that places the power directly in the hands of the people.
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Old 02.08.2020, 17:45
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

Mods, can we move this thread to Off Topic? None of this really has anything to do with Switzerland
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Old 02.08.2020, 17:56
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

The parts that are about the polarisation in the sub-set of society that is EF, very much have to do with Switzerland.
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Old 02.08.2020, 18:01
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The parts that are about the polarisation in the sub-set of society that is EF, very much have to do with Switzerland.
What page is that on?
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Old 02.08.2020, 18:05
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

Starting from Page 1, in fact Post 1, some of the posts on this thread are about posts in this forum.

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I did post in some of the threads ....
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Where are the other useful threads?
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

All those topics on the first page dealt with generalizations, Trump and Brexit. I don't see any reference to Switzerland and its specific polarisation here.
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Old 02.08.2020, 18:36
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Luckily in Switzerland we have a multi party coalition and a direct democracy that places the power directly in the hands of the people.
On the contrary we have a situation in Switzerland where the political parties have colluded to ensure the will of the people is not reflected in the make of the government and the ability of the voter to hold the government to account is pretty much zero.
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On the contrary we have a situation in Switzerland where the political parties have colluded to ensure the will of the people is not reflected in the make of the government and the ability of the voter to hold the government to account is pretty much zero.

but which system and/or specific countries give voters more of a hold over government?
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

Zurich and Geneva, the Riviera and the Gold Coast are probably different - but generally speaking, in more rural areas and smaller towns with fewer expats- Swiss society is much much less polarised than in the UK.
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Old 02.08.2020, 23:22
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but which system and/or specific countries give voters more of a hold over government?
I donít know that there is but then I donít think there is a generic concept of democracy either, itís just a set of rules people agree to be governed by and if the people are happy with it, then unless it is missing some of what we might consider common elements, itís as good as any other form.

I feel many people voted BREXIT on the expectation that it would improve their lot, but beyond letís get a few trade deals there is no government plan to make it happen....
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There will be always different opinions that people to different degree will see (or not) as 'deliberately provoking' because their level of tolerance to diversity is different.

So how 'deliberately provocative' something is really depends on how much tolerance people give to others to think differently, speak differently, diverge from what they consider that the norm is. People attribute the intent to provoke while it seems their own level of tolerance is simply just saturated.
Nah. People know when provocation is deliberate. My nephew is 3. He knows exactly how to deliberately provoke. Looks like you're just trying to justify/excuse shitty behaviour here, dude/dudette.
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Over the past months, quite a number of long-term, contributing EF members have left, and I'm sad about that. Some have left in frustration, some having been hurt. Some left simply in boredom, having determined that the repetitiveness of the way the discussions deteriorate as soon as those wanting to provoke do so, over and over again, was just not worth spending their energy upon.

This saddens me.
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Another one left. Just saying.
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Another one left. Just saying.
Is that why I have N/A by one of my red comments? People do seem to be able to dish it out, but not take it on here.

I don't actually remember who it was in all seriousness, hope nothing too horrific happened to them, there is some nasty business on here at times.
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Another one left. Just saying.
Who ?

I’ve thought of leaving too as I very very much miss reading my favorite oldtimers. I loved the intelligence and education and that sometimes biting but so funny humour, especially from the British EF members.
We had built memories here on EF
What I loved the most was that when the chips were down, people showed such kindness and solidarity.

It hasn’t been the same since so many have gone.

Honestly some threads became almost obscure as if some were deliberately stirring the pot to create debate, making me wonder about their intent.

I’ve appreciated the amazing writers throughout the years, regardless of their point of view. I’ve been grateful for the informative posts from posters with a speciality whether that be pets or insurance or property or life in Switzerland, or cheese, etc. I’ve loved the talent of those who took on us on a journey with beautiful and very funny story-telling whether written by them or their uncle. I’ve enjoyed understanding the differences of other cultures.

I truly love this community.

It’s just ok now, and maybe it will take off again, but we’ve never ever been rich enough to lose friends.
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