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Old 05.08.2020, 10:15
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Maybe bias clouds some member's levels of tolerance to let others have some space, too. It helps to offer others, generously, the space to contribute what they consider relevant. Nobody is forced to keep reading any volume they do not or cannot or don't want to relate to.
It's also about common sense, MusicChick. Usually, it's quite evident when a thread is being derailed in an effort to bully or provoke. 3Wishes did a marvelous job with the pots and pans thread. That kind of intervention needs to be done more often.
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Maybe bias clouds some member's levels of tolerance to let others have some space, too. It helps to offer others, generously, the space to contribute what they consider relevant. Nobody is forced to keep reading any volume they do not or cannot or don't want to relate to.
Which might be a justification for allowing members to ignore mods, just like they ignore other members.
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Old 05.08.2020, 10:20
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

It is humorous how some advertize their inability to simply ignore what they find intolerable, without resorting to need an outsourced algorithm for that.
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Old 05.08.2020, 10:23
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It is humorous how some advertize their inability to simply ignore what they find intolerable, without resorting to need an outsourced algorithm for that.
That's just baloney.
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Old 05.08.2020, 10:29
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

Bullying isnít always obvious, the quiet, underhand bullying that goes on here is far more dangerous in my opinion.
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It is humorous how some advertize their inability to simply ignore what they find intolerable, without resorting to need an outsourced algorithm for that.

Thatís rather snide of you. Does it hurt your ego that not everyone wants to observe your wisdom? Is stating a preference an advertisement? Well ok, glad I made you laugh. Nevertheless, one should be able to ignore as one wishes, especially in cases where moderation is minimal to non existent.
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It's also about common sense, MusicChick. Usually, it's quite evident when a thread is being derailed in an effort to bully or provoke. 3Wishes did a marvelous job with the pots and pans thread. That kind of intervention needs to be done more often.
Fully agree - cleansed the thread of nasty, personal attacks and it now reads much better.

The need for moderation is the issue though - if you don't feel you can post something helpful or positive, you should back away from the keyboard and go and get a nice cup of chai.
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Old 05.08.2020, 10:42
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

Hmmmm. This "I am entitled to your answers! I am asking so politel!y" and "Can I put you on ignore?" confuses, tbh. And not just me, I am sure.
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Hmmmm. This "I am entitled to your answers! I am asking so politel!y" and "Can I put you on ignore?" confuses, tbh. And not just me, I am sure.
I for one donít care about your answers, and I make no illusions about politeness. Hope that eases confusion in a small case. Nevertheless, have a nice day.
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Old 05.08.2020, 10:48
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Old 05.08.2020, 10:51
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Hmmmm. This "I am entitled to your answers! I am asking so politel!y" and "Can I put you on ignore?" confuses, tbh. And not just me, I am sure.
If a mod is repeatedly asked if they can be added to the ignore list, then perhaps some self-reflection needs to be done on the mod's side.
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If a mod is repeatedly asked if they can be added to the ignore list, then perhaps some self-reflection needs to be done on the mod's side.
Or maybe the people asking should just stop reading their posts? Two way street I suppose.
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Old 05.08.2020, 11:45
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If a mod is repeatedly asked if they can be added to the ignore list, then perhaps some self-reflection needs to be done on the mod's side.
Apparently self-reflection is reserved only to some "commoners" here. Btw, ignore list doesn't really function that well, because it won't prevent anyone who intends to provoke and derail, from replying to your posts and causing a chain reaction, gathering enthusiastic cheerleaders along the way. So if someone's intention is to gang people up against you, they can do it regardless of you having them on your ignore list. At one point or another you'll feel compelled to clear things up. OK, maybe not everyone and not every time but still.
I'm not saying it's not a good option, however it is limited and it doesn't really address the issues here.

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Old 05.08.2020, 12:31
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

It's funny how bullying and provoking irritate some people and yet, the same people do it albeit passively-aggressive too

I guess it's ok if one does it to others, it's not ok if done by others to oneself. Back to the self-reflection.

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delete any bullying or provoking texts that derail a thread. It helps to keep the bullies and attention seekers at bay and allows the rest to concentrate on the topic at hand.

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Which might be a justification for allowing members to ignore mods, just like they ignore other members.
Everyone can freely choose to ignore whoever they like - nobody's stopping you.

You seem to be confusing the word "ignore" with "avoid seeing things that I won't be able to ignore".

I'm sure we're all guilty, from time to time, of responding to posts that we really know aren't worth the effort, but if you need to pretend that those posts don't exist in order to avoid doing so I think you've got a problem that can't be resolved by any third-party actions.
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Old 05.08.2020, 13:30
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Everyone can freely choose to ignore whoever they like - nobody's stopping you.

You seem to be confusing the word "ignore" with "avoid seeing things that I won't be able to ignore".

I'm sure we're all guilty, from time to time, of responding to posts that we really know aren't worth the effort, but if you need to pretend that those posts don't exist in order to avoid doing so I think you've got a problem that can't be resolved by any third-party actions.
Indeed, the forum threads are like bars in downtown. One must choose which one is worth to visit and stay. Once you found one you don't like, why stay? It's impossible to like all conversations, it's irrational to have this expectation.
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Old 05.08.2020, 13:34
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Indeed, the forum threads are like bars in downtown. One must choose which one is worth to visit and stay. Once you found one you don't like, why stay? It's impossible to like all conversations, it's irrational to have this expectation.
Shhh, you're in the library next door to an AmDram Soc, a football pitch and an asylum. The pubs down the road.
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Everyone can freely choose to ignore whoever they like - nobody's stopping you.

You seem to be confusing the word "ignore" with "avoid seeing things that I won't be able to ignore".

I'm sure we're all guilty, from time to time, of responding to posts that we really know aren't worth the effort, but if you need to pretend that those posts don't exist in order to avoid doing so I think you've got a problem that can't be resolved by any third-party actions.
Thank you for the insightful personality analysis. Not. Try not to be so condescending.

So why not totally eliminate the ignore function. I realize mods need some additional functionality to moderate, but since we hear all the time how they are just members after all.....how does this help functionality.
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Apparently self-reflection is reserved only to some "commoners" here.
I am so glad you did not say "basket of commoners".

How many times can one have somebody unwilling to accept somebody's different opinion and yells "self-reflection"? Or some diagnosis, or other name-calling.

Ace1 - well put. I appreciate the distance.

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Indeed, the forum threads are like bars in downtown. One must choose which one is worth to visit and stay. Once you found one you don't like, why stay? It's impossible to like all conversations, it's irrational to have this expectation.
Obviously, it is rational to grasp that people come to bars for a bunch of reasons. Unfortunately you will have the odd few who will pick on others, especially those who veer off the norm.
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