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Old 28.07.2020, 14:34
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I'm sorry you feel that way - the belittlement felt can only be a personal thing though, nobody can make you feel belittled unless you are personally enlittled to begin with.

I'm not really looking to communicate with the laypeople on here though, but the fellow subject matter experts like Gaburko and MusicChick.


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Old 28.07.2020, 14:42
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I'm sorry, I picked these terms up during my pHd times - i forget laypeople often struggle to interact at our level.
I picked up a whole other set of terms during my phd times but none of them would be appropriate here. We didn’t have much call for the words you used in vaccine research.
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Old 28.07.2020, 14:55
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I did post in some of the threads where people are so polarised that I thought where the multipolar society disappeared as we know in beautiful '70s,'80s, the '90s when you can think wherever you want. Now is only supporters of Trump or anti-Trump, pro-Brexit or anti-Brexit, pandemic believers or anti-pandemic believers. Where are the other useful threads? Can we live without discussing these three problems?
I don't think the problem is idiocy. The assumption is that if you're pro-Trump, then you are pro-Brexit, anti-mask, anti-pandemic, anti-abortion, anti-homosexual, anti-woke.

Whereas if you're against Trump, then you are the opposite of all these things.

You can start at any point.

The beliefs are lumped together. Idiots immediately jump to hating their ideological opponents.

Which is why the Pie video I posted has some good points - first and foremost that the truth is nuanced, as are people's beliefs. For example, I'm anti-woke, but not anti-mask.
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Superheros haven't just become increasingly popular. People have always had an inventory of gods and icons, manuals for goodness and common good, etc...the clearer the manual, the easier the opposition and negation, too.

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Long time lurker here...

Dunno about the philosophical stuff but as a lifelong superhero geek I'd say nowadays lots of "suoerhero" stuff is more interested in the shades of grey inbetween the good and evil: The Boys, Umbrella Academy, Doom Patrol etc. The excellent Chronicle from awhile back. I think there is less polarization if anything.
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Old 28.07.2020, 14:58
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Ahhh, so sorry, can´t keep up here, but then I only have a couple of MA´s and such
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Long time lurker here...

Dunno about the philosophical stuff but as a lifelong superhero geek I'd say nowadays lots of "suoerhero" stuff is more interested in the shades of grey inbetween the good and evil: The Boys, Umbrella Academy, Doom Patrol etc. The excellent Chronicle from awhile back. I think there is less polarization if anything.
Except Thor; lots of polarity with his superpower.
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Old 28.07.2020, 15:01
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I picked up a whole other set of terms during my phd times but none of them would be appropriate here. We didn’t have much call for the words you used in vaccine research.
That depends. Could be a fun project to establish the R2 between immune responses to vaccines and IQ levels. An interesting discussion is which is the dependent and which is the independent variable
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Old 28.07.2020, 15:06
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Except Thor; lots of polarity with his superpower.
Ah. Thor. I'm a Hulk boy myself, particularly when Ruffalo.

Someone - something music - mentioned liking Shakespeare being a trope. Meaning please?

Ah... you guys are serious or joking about the PhD? I'm not so good at sarcasm if it is.

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Old 28.07.2020, 15:17
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I'm sorry you feel that way - the belittlement felt can only be a personal thing though, nobody can make you feel belittled unless you are personally enlittled to begin with.

I'm not really looking to communicate with the laypeople on here though, but the fellow subject matter experts like Gaburko and MusicChick.
Happy to have other SME proficiency then.
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Old 28.07.2020, 15:42
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Someone - something music - mentioned liking Shakespeare being a trope. Meaning please?

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Well, there are very few real story variants and very little innovation over and above them.

Essentially all films use one or more of these story archetypes. Shakespeare is a well known author who also used them, so I suspect that's the link MusicC is making, although of course plenty of other authors did it earlier and many might say better than Bill S.
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Old 28.07.2020, 16:30
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Long time lurker here...

Dunno about the philosophical stuff but as a lifelong superhero geek I'd say nowadays lots of "suoerhero" stuff is more interested in the shades of grey inbetween the good and evil: The Boys, Umbrella Academy, Doom Patrol etc. The excellent Chronicle from awhile back. I think there is less polarization if anything.
Agree. My son lectures me all the time about how chaotic neutral characters are so much more interesting than lawful good.
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Old 28.07.2020, 17:28
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And here, not sure what the reference to drugs is about, but just like the stuff about being a free thinker, there doesn't seem to be any point to it, nobody's suggesting you use drugs or are not a free thinker, so what are you trying to say when you start talking about those things?
Some people did suggest he's on drugs. On a different thread (about masks or smth.). He/she might have been traumatised by those wild accusations and decided to explain himself...
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Old 28.07.2020, 18:18
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and decided to explain himself...
This is probably how Trump feels in the company of intelligent, decent foreigners. Irrelevant of how good the interpreters are, he's always misunderstood
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Old 28.07.2020, 18:22
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Interesting thread Kite.

I think too many like to enambulate bifurcastically on here and in general. It's a humanistic failing essentially and not one that can be remedied, pontifactually or otherwise.

Hopefully someone with a second class or better humanities degree can put us right, but from my perspective, this won't change, certainly not unifracturally, but let's all agree to work synologically to a cromulent solution.
Thank you, HartMoss, this had me chuckling out loud!

Boasting about PhDs or other achievements? Yuck, just yuck. Indeed, bragging contributes towards polarisation.
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Old 28.07.2020, 18:33
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Just ain't no in between.

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Well, there are very few real story variants and very little innovation over and above them.

Essentially all films use one or more of these story archetypes. Shakespeare is a well known author who also used them, so I suspect that's the link MusicC is making, although of course plenty of other authors did it earlier and many might say better than Bill S.
No i know what a trope is. Confused why liking Shakespeare would be one? Maybe I missed something.

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Agree. My son lectures me all the time about how chaotic neutral characters are so much more interesting than lawful good.
Hugely dude. Hugely.

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Old 28.07.2020, 19:56
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Interesting thoughts.
Great first post! You have a great future here on EF! Please share your thoughts on the Trump thread, can't wait for your PhD level analysis!
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Old 28.07.2020, 19:57
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...Boasting about PhDs or other achievements? Yuck, just yuck. Indeed, bragging contributes towards polarisation.
In my experience, people who actually have PhDs don't brag about it. Maybe a celebration when the hard work is finished but that's about it. Accomplishments and intelligence speak for themselves.

The ones who brag about PhDs are usually the ones who started but never finished.
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Old 28.07.2020, 20:24
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Re: Polarised society:Why?

It´s simple, people are pack animals; it boils down to a bunch of monkeys in a tree hating the monkeys in the next tree, or, my tribe Yeah! Your tribe BOOOOO!
The rest is cosmetics.
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Old 28.07.2020, 20:51
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In my experience, people who actually have PhDs don't brag about it.
Unless they got it from a second-rate school.

Same with MS.

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