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29.07.2020, 11:38
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: |  | | | Not sure I expressed an opinion either way. I see myself as above this fray, observing.
Makes for interesting viewing, at times. | | | | | Except this is not just an observation. It is your opinion that can be interpreted as polarized, polarizing and quite rude, to be frank: | Quote: |  | | | He is polarising by attempting to depolarize debate. Much like a magneton beam through a wormhole. | | | | | So, an observer - a great idea. Aren't we all and yes, the distance is needed. But I think you euphemized.
And I haven't read Flying being rude anywhere, he seems to me (as I observed) merely voicing opinions that differ. People react to it because they think he 100% provokes (he could, it is a fine line), his ideas stick out a lot, apparently.
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29.07.2020, 11:57
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | So anyone hypothetically polarizes by voicing an opinion that people hypothetically react to in a pack? Sounds awfully scary and fatiguing. How about always agreeing with anything then? On principle. HM - I agree with you. Disingenuous but unpolarizing. So you'd prefer people to be polarized secretely but voice their support for the way you see the world? That sounds to me as a definition of a dictator or dogma. 
| | | | | All agreement is fascism.
All disgreement is polarization.
All nuance is evasion. | 
29.07.2020, 11:59
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why?
You should write commercials. I can hear the melody | 
29.07.2020, 12:01
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: |  | | | I see myself as above this fray, observing.
Makes for interesting viewing, at times. | | | | | And your pomposity makes for interesting viewing.
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29.07.2020, 12:07
| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | And your pomposity makes for interesting viewing. | | | | | Now now, staying above the fray should make one immune to personal insults. Please don't try to drag me into your epistemological petri dish.
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29.07.2020, 12:24
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | For which you need an electoral system that actually gives smaller parties a chance to win some seats. | | | | | It already works that way in the US (for senate and house).
Tom
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29.07.2020, 12:25
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why?
I'd hope any worthy thought processing is an epistemological petri dish! | 
29.07.2020, 12:54
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: |  | | | Quite right! People do not appear to be stochastically magnanimous or exhibit larumal equanimity when talking of such multipolar options. | | | | | | Quote: |  | | | That's what I would do if I didn't fully understand them, too. | | | | | It's irrelevant what you think.
Using such words when simple words would suffice is neither big, nor clever.
It just shows people what a bore you are. larumal doesn't doesn't even appear in any of my dictionaries.
Today's homework for you to re-write your original post so it actually means something that 90% your intended audience can understand -many of whom have English as a second language.
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29.07.2020, 13:04
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why?
All in all, a most cromulent meeting of embiggend minds trying to avoid agreement upon the actual point of the discussion.
As I sadly lack any academic qualification, I’d like to compensate by pointing out a slightly twisted “nostalgic” fact re the 70’s. | Quote: | |  | | | From the top of my head, in the 70s there was the Argentinean dictatorship that kidnapped and killed 20'000 people, the KR massacred over 1.5 million Muslims in the Philippines, about a dozen Civil Wars (with casualties of more than 100K people each) in South America, Asia and Africa, and in the "wonderful" 90s there was the Srebrenica massacre in Bosnia. | | | | | Assume “KR” = Khmer Rouge – they wreaked havoc in Cambodia and murdered mainly compatriots, i.e. Buddhists and/or non-conformist communists
Risking further disqualification, I award HartMoss serious points in piss taking.
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Reason: edited quote, let me know if it needs more editing :)
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29.07.2020, 13:10
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | All in all, a most cromulent meeting of embiggend minds trying to avoid agreement upon the actual point of the discussion. As I sadly lack any academic qualification, I’d like to compensate by pointing out a slightly twisted “nostalgic” fact re the 70’s
Quote: the KR massacred over 1.5 million Muslims in the Philippines Assume “KR” = Khmer Rouge – they wreaked havoc in Cambodia and murdered mainly compatriots, i.e. Buddhists and/or non-conformist communists Risking further disqualification, I award HartMoss serious points in piss taking. | | | | | The only thing that matters here is you lacking a little bit in the quoting dept. I'll look back in the thread to fix it. Just simply click on the quote button next time. | 
29.07.2020, 13:25
| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | It's irrelevant what you think.
Using such words when simple words would suffice is neither big, nor clever.
It just shows people what a bore you are. larumal doesn't doesn't even appear in any of my dictionaries.
Today's homework for you to re-write your original post so it actually means something that 90% your intended audience can understand -many of whom have English as a second language. | | | | | If it is irrelevant what I think, why would you have me re-write something, presumably equally irrelevant?
Languages evolve, it doesn't take a great brain to figure out that larumal means pertaining to cuckoos. As I said, my prose wasn't really for you, but for the subject matter experts on here who understand.
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29.07.2020, 13:28
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: |  | | | Not sure I expressed an opinion either way. I see myself as above this fray, observing.
Makes for interesting viewing, at times. | | | | | Because of your PhD? Dude. Get involved. | Quote: | |  | | | Except this is not just an observation. It is your opinion that can be interpreted as polarized, polarizing and quite rude, to be frank:
So, an observer - a great idea. Aren't we all and yes, the distance is needed. But I think you euphemized.
| | | | | I didn't read Hartmoss as rude. Making a point while taking the mick, sure. Everyone's opinion can be polarizing i reckon. Observe. Rollup them sleeves.
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29.07.2020, 13:29
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | All in all, a most cromulent meeting of embiggend minds trying to avoid agreement upon the actual point of the discussion.
As I sadly lack any academic qualification, I’d like to compensate by pointing out a slightly twisted “nostalgic” fact re the 70’s.
Assume “KR” = Khmer Rouge – they wreaked havoc in Cambodia and murdered mainly compatriots, i.e. Buddhists and/or non-conformist communists
Risking further disqualification, I award HartMoss serious points in piss taking. | | | | | Ha! I don't have a thanks button or I'd be thanking the hell out of this. You read him that way too huh?
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29.07.2020, 13:36
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | Everyone's opinion can be polarizing i reckon. | | | | | That's why I said that when people claim that somebody deliberately stirs the pot it could be just people simply differ in opinions and perhaps don't mind being in minority. | Quote: |  | | | Rollup them sleeves. | | | | | My sleeves roll up a lot.  Can't get them any further.
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29.07.2020, 13:49
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: |  | | | He is polarising by attempting to depolarize debate. Much like a magneton beam through a wormhole. | | | | | There's no such a thing as radical centrism.
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29.07.2020, 14:02
| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | There's no such a thing such as radical centrism.  | | | | | | 
29.07.2020, 14:19
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: |  | | | Languages evolve, it doesn't take a great brain to figure out that larumal means pertaining to cuckoos | | | | | Actually it doesn't. It means
Archaic
1. A sound warning of danger.
2. A commotion. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/larum
You can do good with the advice to re-write some of your thoughts in English. It'll still be non-sense, but at least it will be funny. For us.
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29.07.2020, 14:22
| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | Actually it doesn't. It means
Archaic
1. A sound warning of danger.
2. A commotion. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/larum
You can do good with the advice to re-write some of your thoughts in English. It'll still be non-sense, but at least it will be funny. For us. | | | | | Probably look in a modern dictionary instead of an archaic one. Also, look for larumal, rather than larum. Tom1234 will be happy to lend one of his many leather bound tomes, I'm sure.
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29.07.2020, 14:26
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| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: |  | | | Probably look in a modern dictionary instead of an archaic one. Also, look for larumal, rather than larum. Tom1234 will be happy to lend one of his many leather bound tomes, I'm sure. | | | | | It's funny how when you lose the pompous language, it's all devoid of meaning | 
29.07.2020, 14:28
| | Re: Polarised society:Why? | Quote: | |  | | | ...devoid of meaning  | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | You can do good with the advice to re-write some of your thoughts in English. | | | | | I think you mean "You would do well to follow the advice...".
You're welcome.
Again though, just because you do not know the word, and are unable to work out the meaning, it only makes it devoid of meaning to you personally.
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