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Re: Is life ultimately a sinking ship?

Some of the stuff you guys said sounds very nice but still does not change the facts. How is love left behind? Whoever you leave behind in charge of your love will die too. I want to be there to see them enjoy the love even after the ship sinks

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If you didn't screw up parenthood, that isn't even remotely true. If on the other hand the only meaning of life is chasing the best, money, career or similar bullshit, then yes you probably end up feeling as failure at the end.

Parenthood never interested me neither did money and material possessions

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Yesterday there came folks from land mines removal agency, looking for donations. Imagine if you contributed to some kid not having legs blasted off / being killed for the crime of running few meters off the path. Imagine if it would be 100 kids. If that isn't fulfilling then I don't know what is.
Yes but those kids will be gone too. I have plenty of fulfilment in life so it is not about that.
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:30
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Indeed, nothing matters in the end. Therefore you're free to chose what you care for and how you spend your time. People that appreciate liberty like this. People that yearn to be dominated feel anxiety about the apparent lack of meaning. So, we're free. Enjoy it or go find the dominatrix that will make you happy.
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I think it helps if you consider your existence in terms of cause and effect. Yes, we might just "return to dust" when we die, but we have the ability to affect the future far long after we're gone... For better or for worse. All is connected.
Yes, but that is of minor interest to me just like life before I was born did not interest me Your cartoon made me smile though

Egyptians Pharaohs built such magnificent structures (I mean their slaves), people still visit and enjoy them but where are they now?

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Old 21.10.2020, 13:34
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Some of the stuff you guys said sounds very nice but still does not change the facts. How is love left behind? Whoever you leave behind in charge of your love will die too. I want to be there to see them enjoy the love even after the ship sinks




Parenthood never interested me neither did money and material possessions

Yes but those kids will be gone too. I have plenty of fulfilment in life so it is not about that.
It is not about a feeling of achievement, then what is it about? Spirituality? Illusion of freedom? Do you need a strugle in life to conquer so you'd find your life meaningful? Some existential friction?

I enjoy a good philo exchange...but in the West I feel as if abundance killed a good part of common sense. In the East I feel as if the strugle was over-glorified.

I guess it boils down to sense of inaproppriacy and a good portion of humor. In other words a definition of being up-beat.
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It is not about a feeling of achievement, then what is it about? Spirituality? Illusion of freedom? Do you need a strugle in life to conquer so you'd find your life meaningful? Some existential friction?

It can be about anything you want it to be, for example I find my life very meaningful but ultimately it is meaningless, if that makes any sense

I saw an old man walking today, his legs were like two curved bananas and his body had shrunk down to 4 feet. He was holding on to two walking sticks and moving 10 times slower than a tortoise. He was like a walking corpse and that really made me sad. I said good morning to him but his hearing was shot too. I just felt like I was looking at myself few years down the road

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So, we're free. Enjoy it or go find the dominatrix that will make you happy.
In these Corona times?
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:01
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Yes, but that is of minor interest to me just like life before I was born did not interest me Your cartoon made me smile though

Egyptians Pharaohs build such magnificent structures (I mean their slaves), people still visit and enjoy them but where are they now?

Ramses-II (Warning- Mummy ahead)
Well, I think you need to take a less self-centered perspective -- one that isn't limited to your own lifetime or your own experience. As an example, just think about the effect that Edward Jenner had on the future. He developed the first vaccine and is responsible for setting the study of vaccines in motion.

It's true that the universe doesn't care if we live or die (the universe is not conscious), but I guess that's one of the beautiful things about our own consciousness... It gives us the ability to find or create meaning in our own existence.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:06
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Naaaa, I liked Motorschweitz' Sisyphus much, much better

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In the end does it all really matter?
Does it need to?

If you believe in reincarnation you could return as a tomato plant or a chicken. You could get eaten and serve as nourishment. Would that make you feel better?
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:20
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In these Corona times?

I use Dominatrix as a figure of speech. It can be a person, religion, art or Joe Rogan's podcast
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It can be about anything you want it to be, for example I find my life very meaningful but ultimately it is meaningless, if that makes any sense

I saw an old man walking today, his legs were like two curved bananas and his body had shrunk down to 4 feet. He was holding on to two walking sticks and moving 10 times slower than a tortoise. He was like a walking corpse and that really made me sad. I said good morning to him but his hearing was shot too. I just felt like I was looking at myself few years down the road
He seemed certain way to you but it doesn't mean he wants or needs pity or sympathy or you mocking his aging body. Old age is so imperfect when judged by the youth but isn't it really perfect, there is such rich context and inventory of perspectives? He didn't expect you to greet him maybe, or wave at him next time? Life is multifaceted, why only appreciate it when things seem to be good..

Life is better or more meaningful when shared with the right person, I think. In advanced age, too. I am not advertizing Tinder here, btw.
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I use Dominatrix as a figure of speech. It can be a person, religion, art or Joe Rogan's podcast
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Religion- Which one? Kidding, I can't lie to myself so NO.
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Dominatrix- Post corona TO DO list
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He seemed certain way to you but it doesn't mean he wants or needs pity or sympathy or you mocking his aging body. Old age is so imperfect when judged by the youth but isn't it really perfect, there is such rich context and inventory of perspectives? He didn't expect you to greet him maybe, or wave at him next time? Life is multifaceted, why only appreciate it when things seem to be good..
I was certainly not mocking him. I was more pitying myself
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Is PARSHIP better?
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:35
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I had expected, as a young man, to grow into a wise old sage.
You're almost certainly wiser than you were when you were younger. I know I am (just over 50).
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I was certainly not mocking him. I was more pitying myself
I get it. But why pity yourself? One of my best friends is over 90. He says pity is cripling.

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I don't know either. But any of these romance supermarkets probably have fans and critics. A person who wants a goat shed will be a hit there, though! The algorithm will yield interesting results.
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I get it. But why pity yourself? One of my best friends is over 90. He says pity is cripling.
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And the prize for most depressing thread of the week goes to...

well no, actually it really made me laugh- as it is so stupidly true. One of my cousins in the USA, an ex Indi driver- always said 'getting old ain't for sissies' and it certainly is true. But more important than all, is you sense of humour and self-deprecation that will save you . Talk to you Later- at least us old biddies in Switzerland always have the opt out button, hey !
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I will upload my brain into a computer and live forever. mwah ha ha ha ha!
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Re: Is life ultimately a sinking ship?

I always think about those, whose ship got torpedoed amids their cruise by cancer - a colleague went on sabbatical and we did not hear from him until it was very late, cardiac-arrest - two guys, one of my age and another one just a few years older, that guy I trained with got beaten to death in our hometown, that guy in last schoolyear of age 18, who was a gymnast and landed badly on his neck. Yes life can be disappointing, but some ships get sunk way too early.
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True.

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I will upload my brain into a computer and live forever. mwah ha ha ha ha!
Isn't that what children basically are...I feel they get us passed on (poor babies) but also our parents and our parents' parents?

I know we repeat stuff that we got exposed to, so often subconsciously.

Talk Later - how's your self faith?
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I always think about those, whose ship got torpedoed amids their cruise by cancer - a colleague went on sabbatical and we did not hear from him until it was very late, cardiac-arrest - two guys, one of my age and another one just a few years older, that guy I trained with got beaten to death in our hometown, that guy in last schoolyear of age 18, who was a gymnast and landed badly on his neck. Yes life can be disappointing, but some ships get sunk way too early.
Yes very sad. Naval warfare called life!

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Talk Later - how's your self faith?
Above average, but as you get old and body crumbles, self faith probably becomes meaningless
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