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Is life ultimately a sinking ship?

I thought I would cheer you guys up and share the free but valuable knowledge that life is ultimately a sinking ship This coming from someone who actually has an ok life.

We keep ourselves busy by rotating the tires- Earning 250k a year, buying a goat hut, reproducing, marrying, divorcing, getting fit or fat, love, hate etc. In the end does it all really matter? For the religious types maybe it matters as you are apparently collecting Migros cumulus points for the afterlife

From the richest king to the poorest beggar we all end up having nothing, just ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Our good times and our loved ones all will go. We are all in a game which is rigged with only one outcome!

Ok I better get back to rotating the tires and keeping my ship afloat for now



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Old 21.10.2020, 10:34
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Old 21.10.2020, 10:40
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..Sisyphus happy..
Well, we'll get to nature vs nurture then. Or half full vs half empty. Or must we really imagine something?

What if Sisyphos is your regular modern day gym goer.

Life is as sinking as we make it, I think. Or, the conditions don't define us as opposed to how we actually deal with the conditions.
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Old 21.10.2020, 10:44
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What if Sisyphos is your regular modern day gym goer.

You mean this guy?


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Old 21.10.2020, 10:48
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You mean this guy?


Wonder what he's imagining.

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Old 21.10.2020, 12:05
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For the religious types maybe it matters as you are apparently collecting Migros cumulus points for the afterlife
Maybe to some, but for others the whole point is that you can't earn reward points.

Life is for living now. Even if it is ultimately meaningless, it's better than the alternative.
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Re: Is life ultimately a sinking ship?

I had expected, as a young man, to grow into a wise old sage.


This hasn't happened. I know nothing. As the world accelerates I know even less than before. I'm 82 now, my grandson and granddaughters seem to know more than I do.


Life really is weird, how can it possibly be?????


It seems as if the universe didn't exist until I was born - odd.


Voltaire said, 'It would be no less surprising to be born twice than to be born once'!


Who knows!
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:20
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I thought I would cheer you guys up and share the free but valuable knowledge that life is ultimately a sinking ship This coming from someone who actually has an ok life.

We keep ourselves busy by rotating the tires- Earning 250k a year, buying a goat hut, reproducing, marrying, divorcing, getting fit or fat, love, hate etc. In the end does it all really matter? For the religious types maybe it matters as you are apparently collecting Migros cumulus points for the afterlife

From the richest king to the poorest beggar we all end up having nothing, just ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Our good times and our loved ones all will go. We are all in a game which is rigged with only one outcome!

Ok I better get back to rotating the tires and keeping my ship afloat for now



I like the goat shed idea. W6 (Zone interdit) just showed a fab documentary about broken tiny cabins being reconstructed and used, it is lovely. Progress.
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:33
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We are all in a game which is rigged with only one outcome!
Yes, true. But I'd rather be enjoying while we play the game rather than be a sore loser during the game. In the end it doesn't matter, but in between it does
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From the richest king to the poorest beggar we all end up having nothing
If you didn't screw up parenthood, that isn't even remotely true. If on the other hand the only meaning of life is chasing the best, money, career or similar bullshit, then yes you probably end up feeling as failure at the end.

Yesterday there came folks from land mines removal agency, looking for donations. Imagine if you contributed to some kid not having legs blasted off / being killed for the crime of running few meters off the path. Imagine if it would be 100 kids. If that isn't fulfilling then I don't know what is.

Generally giving and helping is very fulfilling. Easier done if you have plenty of family/close friends, but not a necessity. Jordan Peterson claims fulfillment can be had from accepting great hard responsibilities, I tend to agree with him.

Those who give more than they receive definitely don't have these kind of concerns as they grow older.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:18
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If you didn't screw up parenthood, that isn't even remotely true.
Having or not having kids is irrelevant. You still die in the end.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:21
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Re: Is life ultimately a sinking ship?

Some of the stuff you guys said sounds very nice but still does not change the facts. How is love left behind? Whoever you leave behind in charge of your love will die too. I want to be there to see them enjoy the love even after the ship sinks

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If you didn't screw up parenthood, that isn't even remotely true. If on the other hand the only meaning of life is chasing the best, money, career or similar bullshit, then yes you probably end up feeling as failure at the end.

Parenthood never interested me neither did money and material possessions

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Yesterday there came folks from land mines removal agency, looking for donations. Imagine if you contributed to some kid not having legs blasted off / being killed for the crime of running few meters off the path. Imagine if it would be 100 kids. If that isn't fulfilling then I don't know what is.
Yes but those kids will be gone too. I have plenty of fulfilment in life so it is not about that.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:34
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Some of the stuff you guys said sounds very nice but still does not change the facts. How is love left behind? Whoever you leave behind in charge of your love will die too. I want to be there to see them enjoy the love even after the ship sinks




Parenthood never interested me neither did money and material possessions

Yes but those kids will be gone too. I have plenty of fulfilment in life so it is not about that.
It is not about a feeling of achievement, then what is it about? Spirituality? Illusion of freedom? Do you need a strugle in life to conquer so you'd find your life meaningful? Some existential friction?

I enjoy a good philo exchange...but in the West I feel as if abundance killed a good part of common sense. In the East I feel as if the strugle was over-glorified.

I guess it boils down to sense of inaproppriacy and a good portion of humor. In other words a definition of being up-beat.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:56
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It is not about a feeling of achievement, then what is it about? Spirituality? Illusion of freedom? Do you need a strugle in life to conquer so you'd find your life meaningful? Some existential friction?

It can be about anything you want it to be, for example I find my life very meaningful but ultimately it is meaningless, if that makes any sense

I saw an old man walking today, his legs were like two curved bananas and his body had shrunk down to 4 feet. He was holding on to two walking sticks and moving 10 times slower than a tortoise. He was like a walking corpse and that really made me sad. I said good morning to him but his hearing was shot too. I just felt like I was looking at myself few years down the road

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So, we're free. Enjoy it or go find the dominatrix that will make you happy.
In these Corona times?
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Old 21.10.2020, 15:06
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You mean this guy?


Naaaa, I liked Motorschweitz' Sisyphus much, much better

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In the end does it all really matter?
Does it need to?

If you believe in reincarnation you could return as a tomato plant or a chicken. You could get eaten and serve as nourishment. Would that make you feel better?
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:18
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I thought I would cheer you guys up and share the free but valuable knowledge that life is ultimately a sinking ship
And the prize for most depressing thread of the week goes to...
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:30
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Indeed, nothing matters in the end. Therefore you're free to chose what you care for and how you spend your time. People that appreciate liberty like this. People that yearn to be dominated feel anxiety about the apparent lack of meaning. So, we're free. Enjoy it or go find the dominatrix that will make you happy.
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And the prize for most depressing thread of the week goes to...

well no, actually it really made me laugh- as it is so stupidly true. One of my cousins in the USA, an ex Indi driver- always said 'getting old ain't for sissies' and it certainly is true. But more important than all, is you sense of humour and self-deprecation that will save you . Talk to you Later- at least us old biddies in Switzerland always have the opt out button, hey !
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well no, actually it really made me laugh- as it is so stupidly true. One of my cousins in the USA, an ex Indi driver- always said 'getting old ain't for sissies' and it certainly is true. But more important than all, is you sense of humour and self-deprecation that will save you . Talk to you Later- at least us old biddies in Switzerland always have the opt out button, hey !

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Mine's a carnival ride with an ad hoc parade.
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