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Good PSUs, CPUs & GPUs are impossible to get to hold off right now! MOBOs that I am interested in are available once again, so that is one positive. Even older GPUs than I need to drive 4k monitors are sold out! My patience has run out! Time to go postal!

Ryzen 5950x (MRSP $800, from Digitec CHF899 ), Pre-order without confirmed delivery date, More than 10 pieces ordered from the supplier.

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I'm waiting a year as it's impossible to buy anything easily at a reasonable price. I even sold a generations old gfx card for 200chfs (and probably could have gotten more for it)!
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Good PSUs, CPUs & GPUs are impossible to get to hold off right now! MOBOs that I am interested in are available once again, so that is one positive. Even older GPUs than I need to drive 4k monitors are sold out! My patience has run out! Time to go postal!

Ryzen 5950x (MRSP $800, from Digitec CHF899 ), Pre-order without confirmed delivery date, More than 10 pieces ordered from the supplier.

Would you order or wait?
I got really lucky the other day... I found a Gigabyte RTX 3090 Gaming OC 24G that had been returned by a customer... for 30% below the current market price! Needless to say I bought it immediately as given the current market situation it should retain value for a long time. Registered it with Gigabyte and now have 4 years of fresh warranty too.

I then bought a 5800x as I was fed up waiting for the 5900x which is due end of March.

I should be able to build it all in by the weekend when my new motherboard gets here.

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Old 08.02.2021, 15:48
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I got really lucky the other day... I found a Gigabyte RTX 3090 Gaming OC 24G that had been returned by a customer... for 30% below the current market price! Needless to say I bought it immediately as given the current market situation it should retain value for a long time. Registered it with Gigabyte and now have 4 years of fresh warranty too.

I then bought a 5800x as I was fed up waiting for the 5900x which is due end of March.

I should be able to build it all in by the weekend when my new motherboard gets here.
What is the current market price for the 3090?
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Old 08.02.2021, 15:55
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What is the current market price for the 3090?
For the model I got, 2200-2300chf. More than that in Germany. I paid 1600chf which is less than the launch price MSRP.

And yes, ridiculous prices but even the RTX 3080 10GB is going for 1100chf+ now.
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Old 08.02.2021, 16:14
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For the model I got, 2200-2300chf. More than that in Germany. I paid 1600chf which is less than the launch price MSRP.

And yes, ridiculous prices but even the RTX 3080 10GB is going for 1100chf+ now.
i was about to say that it was a 'good deal' but that would just illustrate how stupid prices have gone.
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i was about to say that it was a 'good deal' but that would just illustrate how stupid prices have gone.
Yup, I'm not sure suppl will improve for a long time. When the next generation arrives I will just be ordering the best card possible at MSRP and sitting tight for it to arrive.

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Old 08.02.2021, 21:56
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I got really lucky the other day... I found a Gigabyte RTX 3090 Gaming OC 24G that had been returned by a customer... for 30% below the current market price! Needless to say I bought it immediately as given the current market situation it should retain value for a long time. Registered it with Gigabyte and now have 4 years of fresh warranty too.

I then bought a 5800x as I was fed up waiting for the 5900x which is due end of March.

I should be able to build it all in by the weekend when my new motherboard gets here.

Looks like you did well under the circumstances. 5800x will be plenty fast combined with the RTX3090. I wonder why the person returned the card? Either way you are covered with the warranty.

I assume you already have an older PSU? Which MOBO did you get?

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Old 09.02.2021, 06:34
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Looks like you did well under the circumstances. 5800x will be plenty fast combined with the RTX3090. I wonder why the person returned the card? Either way you are covered with the warranty.

I assume you already have an older PSU? Which MOBO did you get?
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Hope that's enough detail! I have been a PC and gaming enthusiast since I was a boy and my dad bought our first 286DX. Well, actually before that I was gaming on a Spectrum ZX.

No idea why someone returned the 3090 but likely the price was too high to stomach or they had ordered multiple cards and only kept one, who knows. There was also a 5900x returned a few weeks ago for 515chf but I didn't take it. Wish I had now though! There are also quite a lot of customer returned x570 motherboards at Digitec, tested as working and priced for a discount. Worth checking out.

The 5800x is now out of stock at Digitec... very happy I got one while I could! I still have a 5900x order due at end of March that I am keeping for now.

To start with I will mainly be playing Skyrim (heavily modded) and Witcher 3 (heavily modded) as I need to get them out of the way as I kept starting and never finishing them.

Total War Warhammer 3 will also be out soon, then I will start Cyberpunk 2077 later in the ear when it's been patched into a good state.

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Old 09.02.2021, 09:05
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Hope that's enough detail!

Well, you forgot the PSU

Looks good, the MSI Unify is a great MOBO, I am partial to ASUS.
The CPU cooler I would have gone with Noctua NH-D15, might have been too tall for your case though.

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Will the big hike in BTC yesterday push GPU mining to even more pointless levels and put people off .. Or will they double down and buy even more GPU?
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Well, you forgot the PSU

Looks good, the MSI Unify is a great MOBO, I am partial to ASUS.
The CPU cooler I would have gone with Noctua NH-D15, might have been too tall for your case though.

Enjoy your rig!
Oops you are right, added the PSU now! Yeah the Sycthe was as big a cooler as I was interested in and performs very close to the Noctua while being half the price.

The MSI does have great features but I hate the MSI Dragon software that comes with it...

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Will the big hike in BTC yesterday push GPU mining to even more pointless levels and put people off .. Or will they double down and buy even more GPU?
it will reduce supply and increase demand, same as it has already been doing. However Bitcoin miners are now even buying laptops to mine with... https://videocardz.com/newz/chinese-...-mine-ethereum

The world is going mad.
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Old 09.02.2021, 12:07
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Will the big hike in BTC yesterday push GPU mining to even more pointless levels and put people off .. Or will they double down and buy even more GPU?
unfortunately, high crypto prices lead to even more shortages as miners buy up even laptops now and not just GPUs:

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Old 09.02.2021, 12:27
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However Bitcoin miners are now even buying laptops to mine with... https://videocardz.com/newz/chinese-...-mine-ethereum

The world is going mad.
The comments section was highly entertaining
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My specs will now be:

Hope that's enough detail! I have been a PC and gaming enthusiast since I was a boy and my dad bought our first 286DX. Well, actually before that I was gaming on a Spectrum ZX.

No idea why someone returned the 3090 but likely the price was too high to stomach or they had ordered multiple cards and only kept one, who knows. There was also a 5900x returned a few weeks ago for 515chf but I didn't take it. Wish I had now though! There are also quite a lot of customer returned x570 motherboards at Digitec, tested as working and priced for a discount. Worth checking out.

The 5800x is now out of stock at Digitec... very happy I got one while I could! I still have a 5900x order due at end of March that I am keeping for now.

To start with I will mainly be playing Skyrim (heavily modded) and Witcher 3 (heavily modded) as I need to get them out of the way as I kept starting and never finishing them.

Total War Warhammer 3 will also be out soon, then I will start Cyberpunk 2077 later in the ear when it's been patched into a good state.
That is tidy 👍 Iíve ended up with a complete rebuild after my 980Ti bricked itself two weeks ago. Any excuse for more shiny...

CPU: AMD 5600x
CPU Cooler: Corsair H150i AIO.
CPU Cooler/Case fans: 9 x Lian Li 120 Uni Fans

MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX B550-E

RAM: same as yours down to the timings

GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA RTX 3070 (registered for a 3080 on the Step Up programme so weíll see if/when I get the nod)

PSU: SuperFlower Leadex Platinum 750w

SSD: Samsung 870 Evo Plus 1TB M.2
SSD1: Crucial M500 1TB Sata 6

CASE: Lian Li PC-011D white

Another life long gamer and PC enthusiast. Battlefield series, used to play a lot of Eve Online, Destiny 1 & 2 and now venturing into Cyberpunk. (Latest patch making a big difference and looks incredible at 1440p with DLSS 2.0)
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Old 10.02.2021, 06:06
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That is tidy 👍 Iíve ended up with a complete rebuild after my 980Ti bricked itself two weeks ago. Any excuse for more shiny...

CPU: AMD 5600x
CPU Cooler: Corsair H150i AIO.
CPU Cooler/Case fans: 9 x Lian Li 120 Uni Fans

MOBO: Asus ROG STRIX B550-E

RAM: same as yours down to the timings

GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA RTX 3070 (registered for a 3080 on the Step Up programme so weíll see if/when I get the nod)

PSU: SuperFlower Leadex Platinum 750w

SSD: Samsung 870 Evo Plus 1TB M.2
SSD1: Crucial M500 1TB Sata 6

CASE: Lian Li PC-011D white

Another life long gamer and PC enthusiast. Battlefield series, used to play a lot of Eve Online, Destiny 1 & 2 and now venturing into Cyberpunk. (Latest patch making a big difference and looks incredible at 1440p with DLSS 2.0)
Nice rig man! Where did you source all of your components from in the last couple of weeks and did you end up paying a premium?

The EVGA step up program is really interesting... do you just buy a card then just immediately register and put yourself in a queue to upgrade? Everyone must be doing that, I bet it takes months.
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I don't know how long I can continue like this!

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I don't know how long I can continue like this!

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Are you going to be gaming or just doing productivity/VM work? If you are not gaming and are doing just mainly productivity work then if I were you I would save money and buy a 3950x because it is plenty powerful enough for that kind of thing. You could even get a 3900x for now for 470chf and then sell it and upgrade later in the year if you need more power than 12 cores.
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Nice rig man! Where did you source all of your components from in the last couple of weeks and did you end up paying a premium?

The EVGA step up program is really interesting... do you just buy a card then just immediately register and put yourself in a queue to upgrade? Everyone must be doing that, I bet it takes months.
Cheers! Not as beefy as yours but itíll do me for a while

I had the cpu cooler, the case and the psu already and overall I think Iíve got things for a fair price. CPU and both SSDs came from Amazon uk - got the 5600x for £260. MOBO and Fans came from Digitec - the latter were expensive at 300 chuffs (although theyíre expensive everywhere and they look amazing ).

GPU was from Scan in the UK for £599 - I set up an alert on discord and ended up ordering over the phone as they had stock that they didnít put online due to bots. Had it delivered to my mumís place and then FedExed to me.

Step Up programme is exactly what you think it is. Register the card, they work down the list and email you when itís your turn, you pay the RRP difference between the two and robertís ya motherís brother. And yes, Iím not holding my breath on when I might get that email - the 3070 is great for 1440p in any case so Iím hardly struggling to survive!
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Are you going to be gaming or just doing productivity/VM work? If you are not gaming and are doing just mainly productivity work then if I were you I would save money and buy a 3950x because it is plenty powerful enough for that kind of thing. You could even get a 3900x for now for 470chf and then sell it and upgrade later in the year if you need more power than 12 cores.

It is all for work actually, no gaming. The aim was to upgrade my older secondary workstation and convert it to primary workstation tasks. My current primary workstation which is occupied 24/7 would have been demoted to secondary usage status!

If my primary workstation was old too then I would have been super desperate (compared to the current semi-desperate state). Part of me feels like just going for 3950x or 5800x. The fact that no 1000W+ PSU or modern GPU is available makes it all a moot point! I will wait out another month or two!!!!
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It is all for work actually, no gaming. The aim was to upgrade my older secondary workstation and convert it to primary workstation tasks. My current primary workstation which is occupied 24/7 would have been demoted to secondary usage status!

If my primary workstation was old too then I would have been super desperate (compared to the current semi-desperate state). Part of me feels like just going for 3950x or 5800x. The fact that no 1000W+ PSU or modern GPU is available makes it all a moot point! I will wait out another month or two!!!!
I reckon a 3900+ would do the job more than adequately and save you money at the same time. It certainly has way faster multicore performance than a 5800x as it has 50% extra cores. Zen3 is really only a benefit over Zen2 for gaming or things that rely on stronger single core performance.
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