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What is with women who keep going back to guys who are no good for them, I am currently observing 4 acquaintances whose partners have repeatedly cheated and made clear that they are not truly interested, but these ladies keep opening their legs each time the guy winks at them. One even stopped taking the pill secretly to get pregnant, to trap the guy!!! He still left Maybe it is a biological thing?

They keep thinking that they can somehow change the man and get him to start a happy family together How many times does an individual have to be fooled before they smell the coffee? I am sure there are men like that with no self-respect too, but I notice that men tend to smell the coffee faster!

My respect to ladies who genuinely have self-respect and don't allow themselves to be used as a doormat. Anyone can make a mistake, but making the same mistake repeatedly?

Ok that would be all, groan away
I feel sorry for you if you had to listen to the stories of 4 different women, I listen to one and sometimes it's overwhelming
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Old 20.05.2021, 10:42
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I am fascinated by your take here.

You're irritated by women who repeatedly forgive, and tolerate poor behaviour.
It doesn't irritate you at all that your own gender are the ones repeatedly exhibiting the poor behaviour, and treating women like crap?

Frankly that irritates me too, but they are not coming to me and moaning, hence the thread.

I am equally allergic to such people, men or women!
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Old 20.05.2021, 10:55
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I feel sorry for you if you had to listen to the stories of 4 different women, I listen to one and sometimes it's overwhelming
You need to get out of that abusive relationship

Now here is a semi-serious question, what should I say to them when they start their moaning next time-

a) Oh so sorry to hear again, chin up. Got to go.

b) Selber schuld, get a grip woman!

c) Always look on the bright side of life.
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Old 20.05.2021, 10:56
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Frankly that irritates me too, but they are not coming to me and moaning, hence the thread.

I am equally allergic to such people, men or women!
In my experience men don't tend to complain to other men that they are being badly treated by their women. It's sort of like admitting they married the wrong woman or something. They may complain about other things in their relationship and it may be blatantly obvious their relationship is a trainwreck. But very few would own up to it outright. At least not to another man. Female on male domestic abuse is still very much a taboo topic.

Women on the other hand, in my experience, like to have somebody to complain to about stuff like this. First it's about "my husband treats me badly" and then its "all our sex is boring" and half a bottle of red later it's "all the men on Tinder are jerks". Maybe it's their way of telling you something?
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Old 20.05.2021, 10:58
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You need to get out of that abusive relationship

Now here is a semi-serious question, what should I say to them when they start their moaning next time-

a) Oh so sorry to hear again, chin up. Got to go.

b) Selber schuld, get a grip woman!

c) Always look on the bright side of life.
Befriend the bad guys? Share a 2-3 beers once and laugh loudly. No way they keep spilling the beans if you're a friend of them haha
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Old 20.05.2021, 10:59
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You need to get out of that abusive relationship

Now here is a semi-serious question, what should I say to them when they start their moaning next time-

a) Oh so sorry to hear again, chin up. Got to go.

b) Selber schuld, get a grip woman!

c) Always look on the bright side of life.
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Old 20.05.2021, 11:03
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Re: What is with some women? No self respect!!!!

from all the threads you've started on EF, this has the most dramatic punctuation in the title.

well done.
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Re: What is with some women? No self respect!!!!

Well, I currently have seen this frequently coming from men and not women. Women can be awful to their spouses too, so I don't think it is just the female sex that has issues with self respect.

It all boils down to self esteem, how they were raised & perhaps life situations that make it hard to leave.
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Old 20.05.2021, 11:11
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.....And for what it is worth, I've seen no shortage of men with "no self respect" either - tolerating partners/wives who are verbally abusive and take every opportunity to belittle their blokes, and/or who are shrill and nasty shrews - the kind of women who make me want to bop them in the nose, but still their fellas stick by them, for whatever misguided reasons.
This. I'm intrigued to watch this again and again. And the guys don't even complain about it!
On the other hand I know only one woman in a relationship who does not complain about it. Yeah, her man has his flaws (as we all do) but she simply lives with that, laughs about them at times or wipes them away with a "ah, bloody hell". They have their differences but I never heard an ongoing, general moaning from her.

While the other woman I know keep complaining or giving out this "it's not perfect" vibe. Also I notice that - and that goes for both parts - many people seem to think constant bickering is a normal way to live life.

Last time I pondered about all the things the love of my life would need to change I was 18 years old. It lead to realizing, that with the amount of things he couldn't possibly be the love of my life I actually remember it well and I never tried to change a guy again.

Anyway, unless a friend - male or female - has a serious relationship problem they know not to turn to me. For general moaning I'm the wrong address.
So, OP, put up with it or let them know you're not the one to moan at. You won't find a general answer to why many people live this way.

An other thing I never understood is why some people cheat?! Either live an open relationship or break up before you move on to the next. It's that simple to me. But I guess it's the "I want the cake and eat it too" which is a wide spread attitude which - not only in relationships - leads to pain, difficulties ..... and fines. LOL.
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It is not, but they make it my business by constantly telling me and expecting sympathy, when it is clearly selberschuld!

Maybe if you told them you are sharing their relationship issues on a public forum they will stop?


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I started the thread as I feel sorry that I am sharing the planet with so many crazy people

You mean the partners that are treating these women so poorly right?
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Old 20.05.2021, 11:19
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An other thing I never understood is why some people cheat?! Either live an open relationship or break up before you move on to the next. It's that simple to me. But I guess it's the "I want the cake and eat it too" which is a wide spread attitude which - not only in relationships - leads to pain, difficulties ..... and fines. LOL.
People fool themselves. Many women, and I guess men too, think something like "it's not cheating when it's me". All hell will break lose when they discover their partner has been cheating as well. Because that's different. You can't compare.
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Old 20.05.2021, 11:27
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I know one woman who never complains about her man because she genuinely has nothing to complain about. They both treat each other with love and respect. She tells me that she can't relate to all these women around her constantly moaning and bad-mouthing their partners.

Maybe bad relationship = Normal
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Good relationship = Abnormal
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Old 20.05.2021, 11:33
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Maybe if you told them you are sharing their relationship issues on a public forum they will stop?
I am not that cruel. Hardly shared anything private or identifiable on here. My opening post applies to almost 85% of the world

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Yes, but in the case of this thread the women specifically as they keep putting their hand in fire repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.

You won't find me defending idiot men! I have no loyalty to any sex.
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Old 20.05.2021, 11:35
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Thread got moved so can't thank your posts any more. Just assume that I am thanking you all
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I am not that cruel. Hardly shared anything private or identifiable on here. My opening post applies to almost 85% of the world

no. Your opening post does not apply to 85% of world but the answer to your question is simple. Indeed I'm sure you know it yourself. They keep accepting them back as they are afraid of being single. Both genders can suffer from this, but unfortunately for women they have a biological clock and in some cases very very strong cultural pressure to remain in a relationship. Their self worth can get very low. If you dont want to hear this from your female friends anymore. Just tell them. Otherwise - selberschuld.
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Old 20.05.2021, 11:48
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no. Your opening post does not apply to 85% of world but the answer to your question is simple. Indeed I'm sure you know it yourself. They keep accepting them back as they are afraid of being single. Both genders can suffer from this, but unfortunately for women they have a biological clock and in some cases very very strong cultural pressure to remain in a relationship.
Yes, I think it boils down to the fact that some people are too needy and just can't stand their own company!

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I like what you did there. They are not my friends. Just entertainment It is just sad to see people throw their one and only life away though.

Talking of time, I think I wasted enough. Have a nice weekend
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Old 20.05.2021, 12:03
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Re: What is with some women? No self respect!!!!

An age old problem, even sung about by guys

Well I started out pretending that I'd,
Come to mean enough to you to make,
You ought to change
Then I came to realize that
There was just too much of you you'd have,
To rearrange


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edit: Actually there is an other line of Jim Croce in one of his songs "If you're going my way, I'll go with you". It can be interpreted in many ways.
Looks like OP should get in touch with Jim Croce for answers

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There's another old saw about marriage expectations:

A woman marries a man believing that he will change. He doesn't.
A man marries a woman believing that she won't change. She does.

Make of it what you will

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Old 20.05.2021, 12:16
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A woman marries a man believing that he will change. He doesn't.
A man marries a woman believing that she won't change. She does.

Make of it what you will

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Better the devil you know or something like that. And your friends may not be all sunshine and roses themselves.
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