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Old 23.02.2007, 17:05
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Sorry, this is probably not the right place, but I picked up a SystemDoctor bit of malware that I think came from clicking on a link provided in a post by a westZurich in the private german lessons thread, and just wanted to warn folks against doing the same....
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Old 24.02.2007, 08:36
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Sorry, this is probably not the right place, but I picked up a SystemDoctor bit of malware that I think came from clicking on a link provided in a post by a westZurich in the private german lessons thread, and just wanted to warn folks against doing the same....
They are all over the net mate...
Install some proper software to make sure it is cleaned off your system.
Most freebies install their own backpackers....
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Old 24.02.2007, 10:03
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They are all over the net mate...
Install some proper software to make sure it is cleaned off your system.
Most freebies install their own backpackers....
Perhaps you can suggest some? Not everyone will know what a proper bit of software is - and probably not everyone will agree
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Old 24.02.2007, 10:35
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Re: Spyware

Lavasoft.com offers a free software for personal use (business users pay!) called AdAware Personal SE. Works excellent and this is a reputable software (recommended by Universities etc.).

Also spybot search and destroy is a great software (by a not-for-profit).

I typically run both software atleast once a month (after updating the definitions just prior to running them). Apparently one of these software catches what the other misses. Never seen that, but you never know.

Both software take a while to run and you shouldn't run them at the same time. Be careful which other software you download that claims to do away with spyware..... many a time these do the opposite!

Make sure to update the software after you download and install them. You may be surprised to learn that your computer was a virus distributing server (let's hope not)!! I am very careful on the internet, but still occasionally find some low threat spyware sitting on my computer... so if you are not that careful, this could be a real possibility.
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Old 24.02.2007, 10:49
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Perhaps you can suggest some? Not everyone will know what a proper bit of software is - and probably not everyone will agree
here is a link for reviews which I have personally used 3 of them for 6 months, plus. Mostly trialware, but fringe benfits of paying for SPY SWEEPER (by webroot) have made me happy. It has found items that spy-bot and ad-aware have not located.
By this review, you can see who has what benefits and pricing as well.
http://anti-spyware-review.toptenreviews.com/
http://www.ccleaner.com/ is also excellent for cleaning up your machine and registry... Not for beginners though, as items are permanently removed and can render your system unstable. Use at your own caution.

MY 2 CENTS..
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Old 26.02.2007, 11:31
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Re: Spyware

Just wanted to add that if you are still using Internet Explorer then you are inviting spyware to your computer. Changing browser to an alternative (e.g. Firefox) is the first step to cutting down on the amount of rubbish you end up collecting.

I think this advice is better suited to people who always say "I don't know anything about computers" because their eyes tend to glaze over when you start to talk about anti-virus, anti-spyware software, etc.
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Just wanted to add that if you are still using Internet Explorer then you are inviting spyware to your computer. Changing browser to an alternative (e.g. Firefox)
Or upgrade to IE7 and self confgure your settings; and delete browsing content simply with a few clicks. Cookies and milk are good, cookies and computers, not so good.
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Old 26.02.2007, 12:11
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Re: Spyware

save yourself from any drive-by infection - don't run windows as administrator

Spybot I find to be the best fix. Albeit I never need it.
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Old 26.02.2007, 12:30
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Re: Spyware

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Or upgrade to IE7 and self confgure your settings;
Do you really believe that IE7 is going to have a better track record than IE6 when it comes to a constant stream of security vulnerabilities and exploits? The leopard doesn't change its spots as they say...
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Do you really believe that IE7 is going to have a better track record than IE6 when it comes to a constant stream of security vulnerabilities and exploits? The leopard doesn't change its spots as they say...
Funnily enough!!
Reading through some of the popular US magazines, they talk about the launch day of IE7 and Vista, and how many people disappeared into the black holes of attack spots.
The best way to be safe is, keep your private info seperate from your pc.
In all fairness, I think if someone wants into your pc, they should just break the window of your house and steal what they want, the good old fashion way! The days when men were men and compters took up the size of your living room.

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Old 26.02.2007, 12:48
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Re: Spyware

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Funnily enough!!
Reading through some of the popular US magazines, they talk about the launch day of IE7 and Vista, and how many people disappeared into the black holes of attach spots.
The best way to be safe is, keep your private info seperate from your pc.
In all fairness, I think if someone wants into your pc, they should just break the window of your house and steal what they want, the good old fashion way! The days when men were men and compters took up the size of your living room.
most don't want your data, they want to either sell you something or make you join a botnet. Or they're just script kiddies copying each other.

Don't run as admin
Don't click on everything "pretty you see"
Consider TeaTray and the other immunization features of spybot
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Re: Spyware

This is what I use (all free and amongst the best)-

Firewall- Zonel Lab
Antivirus- AVG and Avast (use one at a time)

CrapCleaner (ccleaner), Ad-aware SE, Spy Bot search and destroy, Firefox (web browser), Thunderbird (mail).

Two good links if you are clueless-

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=1674570
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...33&STARTPAGE=1
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Re: Spyware

A few words of advice:
  • I don't think it's worth arguing IE7 vs Firefox. They're both horrifically insecure. If you think Firefox is secure then go look at the Mozilla security page and be disavowed of that notion ...
  • I'd recommend avoiding ZoneAlarm. It's probably the most worthless piece of software I've ever encountered. The Windows built-in firewall will do just as well and screw up far fewer websites/programs
Your best bet for staying secure is to always ensure your system is up to date with the latest patches (make sure Windows Update can download/install them without asking you) and to avoid the 'seedy' parts of the web. If you aren't sure about a link, you can also stick it into Google. We do regular sweeps of the net looking for malware embedded into web pages and will prevent you from clicking through onto those pages. So if you search for that page and click it then see a warning, stay away.

The horrid truth is really, the bad guys have won and the good guys have lost this one. It's a warzone out there and you will eventually get hit by all the bullets whizzing around. As long as you accept it'll happen and it's not your fault when it does, you're along doing better than most ....
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  • I'd recommend avoiding ZoneAlarm. It's probably the most worthless piece of software I've ever encountered. The Windows built-in firewall will do just as well and screw up far fewer websites/programs
ZA is much better than MS firewall! It screws up ZERO websites/programs for me. You sure you configured the "Program control" and "firewalll zones" properly? How can you say that MS firewall is better when it does not even give proper easy to use incoming and outgoing control?
Either you know something special or all the nerds are clueless :-)

Edit-Btw I am talking Pre-Vista. I don't run crappy Vista yet.

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Re: Spyware

Me I run AVG antivirus etc all FREE to down load does not slow your machine like Norton. And as suggested FIREFOX also free to down load.

http://www.grisoft.de/doc/31/de/crp/0

http://www.firefox2.com/

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Re: Spyware

I'm using AVG antivirus, Spyware blaster, Spybot Search and Destroy, Adaware and Crapcleaner. All are free, regularly updated and have kept me from viruses and other rubbish for the past few years.

I also use Siteadvisor which is an extension for Firefox. It puts a red cross next to Google search results from dodgy sites. It's available from www.siteadvisor.com.

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Old 06.03.2007, 13:00
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Re: Spyware

I've debugged more than one problem caused by ZoneAlarms "helpful features". For example, it has (at least in the past) broken GMail, but in such a way that you cannot track it back to ZoneAlarm unless you know how to do a packet trace.

The other problem with ZoneAlarm is it gives people a false sense of security. The constant "Do you want to allow XYZ.EXE access to the internet" boxes achieve nothing except confusing people. Any malicious software can trivially bypass those checks, leaving only legitimate software which may be mistaken for malicious software by the user and doesn't expect to get its connection request blocked. I've seen one person accidentally block Windows Update before because they didn't know enough to connect an obscure program name to the service (it's really hard to know all the components of Windows by heart).

So generally I recommend switching it off. It's a badly thought out product that just makes a bad situation worse.
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577]Perhaps you can suggest some? Not everyone will know what a proper bit of software is - and probably not everyone will agree [/quote]

I was having awful problems with IE7, it just dowloaded itself, by the way and we were plagued with all those nasty adult pop-ups as soon as we clicked onto IE7.

Not nice when you have impressionable kids who regularly use the compy.

I am very happy with 'Norman', our anti-virus programme. So haven't got virus probs.

I tried all the other free programmes spyware programmes, with varying degrees of success but have finally found the answer to all our problems.

Spywareblaster SpywareBlaster is another free service, which takes up very little space and best of all, instead of allowing you to just clean up after all that junk has invaded your puter, it simply doesn't allow it in !!.... It's been great for us, have been free of all those dreaded lurgies ever since. It covers both our IE7 (the kids like it) and Firefox which I prefer.

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Re: Spyware

Well if your kids like it - Download an IE skin for Firefox. Friends don't let friends use IE. Other than cantarell thinks, the amount of zero day exploits and IE specific malware in the wild significantly outnumbers the few threats targeted at firefox users.
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Re: Spyware

Use Firefox with NoScript extension. That's pretty safe - but websites will look funky And don't run with admin rights!

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Edit-Btw I am talking Pre-Vista. I don't run crappy Vista yet.
If you don't run Vista, how can you come to the conclusion it's crappy? Reading people hating UAC on the interwebthingy?
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