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Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

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I received a letter from the Quellensteuer Department and they sent me a form "Abklärung der Einkommensverhältnisse" and they asked for the monthly salary...since my partner is a sole trader, the salary is always a bit on and off (depends on the clients) so...do I have to fill in that or can I just leave it open?
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

Are you employed? Are you married to your partner, and if so are you or s/he the man (if you see what I mean)? I guess this is your first year here?
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

Well, we're not married. She's female and has a business. She moved here recently from the UK! I'm Swiss, I already have a job haha!!
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Well, we're not married. She's female and has a business. She moved here recently from the UK! I'm Swiss, I already have a job haha!!
You are then taxed seperately and her income has nothing to do with your answers to the form. D
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Old 20.03.2009, 23:00
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Hello

I received a letter from the Quellensteuer Department and they sent me a form "Abklärung der Einkommensverhältnisse" and they asked for the monthly salary...since my partner is a sole trader, the salary is always a bit on and off (depends on the clients) so...do I have to fill in that or can I just leave it open?
You are Swiss. Swiss do not pay "Quellensteuer". So why are they asking?
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

Again lol
My partner (EU Citizens) has set up a business here. She got accepted. She now needs to pay Quellensteuer for her business I think. They wanna know how much she makes a month. How can we know how much she makes as a sole trader? She does not have a steady income.
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Again lol
My partner (EU Citizens) has set up a business here. She got accepted. She now needs to pay Quellensteuer for her business I think. They wanna know how much she makes a month. How can we know how much she makes as a sole trader? She does not have a steady income.
I doubt, as you are Swiss, your partner will pay-as-you-earn (Quellensteuer). She will need to register as self-employed (search these forums for info). I don't know what "she has set up a business here" means - AG / GmbH / number of employees?

To receive fuller advice, you will need to supply fuller information...
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

she has set up a business as sole trader and is registered as a self employed...
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she has set up a business as sole trader and is registered as a self employed...
Then you need to tell your local tax office that you are Swiss and you don't think Quellensteuer should apply and you partner needs to complete 'Hlifsblatt A', with the usual tax form, to show income and expenditure...
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

Babyfame,

I have to say Im really disappointed. You post a badly articulated question "I received etc" that doesnt even make it clear you are Swiss.

This is an "englishforum" for english speaking expats (ie who struggle with the native language and are not familiar with Swiss tax systems etc) not for Schwiitzerdeutsch who are to effing lazy to pick up the phone to their local Steueramt. Shame on you.

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This is an "englishforum" for english speaking expats (ie who struggle with the native language and are not familiar with Swiss tax systems etc) ....
Is that really so? This forum is only for English speaking expats? Then I would have to quit
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

Kind of selfish how u guys are when I'm just trying to help my ENGLISH SPEAKING partner! And I always got a good advice in this forum but obviously...I was wrong. Have a good day everyone. Not posting anymore.
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

No, keep posting.

I am embarrassed for my Country if this ignorant pig is English.

Shame on YOU, Daniel. Where are your manners? Must have been absolutely DRAGGED up.
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Old 24.03.2009, 09:15
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Babyfame,

I have to say Im really disappointed. You post a badly articulated question "I received etc" that doesnt even make it clear you are Swiss.

This is an "englishforum" for english speaking expats (ie who struggle with the native language and are not familiar with Swiss tax systems etc) not for Schwiitzerdeutsch who are to effing lazy to pick up the phone to their local Steueramt. Shame on you.

Daniel
Oh and it's 'too' not 'to'....seems you struggle with English ;-)
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

I have to say I have tried to help the aptly name babyfame before. But his lack of information. assumption that we are mind-readers, non-use of the forums search facility make it quite literally a thank-less task...
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

Err its the "englishforum", and posts in foreign languages are not allowed, indeed I believe that forum etiquette even suggests that the correct format would be eg local tax office ("kantonalesteueramt"). It was also set up aimed at being a resource to assist the expat community mainly I believe... not to say non-expats were not welcome.

I think its not unfair to say Ive been a fairly active contributor ever since the forum started. I took a few months break while travelling, and these coincided with the near meltdown of the forum following from Marc's death and the night of the long knives in the moderator group.

There is no doubt that the forum I have found on returning has much more of a character of a free helpline where many posters have an question:answer ratio that must be heavily weighted to the question side. Usually without obviously the slightest effort to search for an answer first or certainly actually read the threads they find (whatever they may claim). To the point where I have been seriously considering dropping away.

All due respect to the new moderators, but we have gone too far in this abuse not being moderated.

Babyfame... I was the first person to respond to your question that the facts were not enough to answer you. As a Swiss you should know the basic facts about tax eg that most foreigners are not treated like natives etc and it doesnt even cross your mind to state this basic fact. Plus you are also perfectly able to solve this with a 2 minute phonecall. Frankly when I saw Goldtop point out you are Swiss I just felt my goodwill was being abused, and I pointed this out... note I didnt groan at you though.

Falloutchik... my dear little pedant. I was going to say pot, kettle and black, but my post isnt abusive. Yours is.

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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

'too effing lazy'.....no, you're a perfect gentleman.

as long as it wasn't personal to her, it's no problem. just watch your manners in future, people get offended.
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No, keep posting.

I am embarrassed for my Country if this ignorant pig is English.

Shame on YOU, Daniel. Where are your manners? Must have been absolutely DRAGGED up.

This is your third post on the forum.... not afraid to jump in at the deep end eh!?
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Re: Quellensteuer (Tax at Source)

I come on here to look for information and observe.

I never had the need to post, people already asked the questions that I had and so I would just research here.

But when I saw how you spoke to Babyfame, I thought it was unacceptable and quite rude. To be honest, I was shocked...she was asking a perfectly innocent question and somehow, you thought she was wasting your precious time. However...you are replying to this argument...hmmm. You can't be THAT concerned about wasting your time, then?!
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This is your third post on the forum.... not afraid to jump in at the deep end eh!?
She lives with me and I mostly took care of everything, that's why she never really posted! And it doesn't matter anyway because she will hear everything from me...she doesn't really need to post.
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