Hello,
Over the weekend I saw a very small article in an international newspaper.
This mentioned a new electronic smoking machine which meant that you can smoke without the smell or the cancerous tar.

I have been smoking every day since I was 11 years old (38 years ago) and now have chronic bronchitus and I MUST STOP SMOKING.

There was no mention of the brand or if it was on general release, but from the description, this seems like a good way to gradually wean myself off the weed / chemicals.

Looked at other smoking threads, but this more specifically about the new machine. Any input or name or experience appreciated

http://www.smokeanywhere.com/?a_aid=00497dda


Results of Google search:

http://www.google.com/search?name=f&...ess+cigarettes

I have a relation in the UK who has used this with success and has not smoked for 3 months or used the device for the last month. However, it does not seem to be available in Switzerland.

Cheers - I will check some of the links out. What would be nice is somewhere here in CH where I could go into a shop. However, just did a search and it came up with a statement to s ay that only a medical qualified person can sell these in CH. There seems to be so many accessories and no mention about how long you get for your 80 CHF (Starter pack). Be nice if I could get this on the Krankenkasse

Hopefully someone else on the forum has tried these - I will order some anyway, as I need to stop.

Tried the Swedish Snus last week - it nearly killed me. Ultra light to Full strength in 2 mins. I need a more gentle approach.

The Gadget Thread

Previous thread has a link to an online supplier. I know a couple of people who tried them but reverted back to cigarettes.

I saw this report on CNN just the other day.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/0...fda/index.html

Friends of mine in the US have tried them and liked them. Not sure if they're smoking again now or not.

I quit a few years back using a drug from the doctor (Zyban). It worked really well for me, it just cut out the cravings completely. However, I'm an addict and I craved it the entire few years I'd quit. I started back up again when I got in a very, very stressful situation. Now I'm looking to quit again, but I don't think I'll go the Zyban route again, as it is an antidepressant and I just don't want the chemicals. But it was very effective for me.

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What about laser treatment ? Anybody tried it ?

From your link:

"Critics of stop smoking laser treatment programs state that the success rate is only as good as a placebo treatment. They feel that any benefit gained from stop smoking laser treatment is all in the mind. Around twenty percent of people treated with lasers in an attempt to stop smoking find that they do not receive the desired effect, and some do need to return for additional treatments. This is something that you should consider if you're thinking about laser therapy for smoking."

Sounds like snake oil. But then again, CHF 300 / 5 = 60 packets. If you have a treatment and the placebo effect keeps you off fags for longer than you would have taken to smoke 60 packets, you're a few grammes of nicotine and tar lighter, and have smoked 1,200 fags fewer.

Has anyone found that trying different "cures" that turn out to be "snake oil" or "placebo effect" makes sense financially? What about repeating "placebo effect" cures? Is anyone aware of any scientific studies of this?

I bought one of those electronic cigarettes for my mother for her birthday last year. She uses it still, but she also smokes cigarettes.

You could try one of these, available by post from the UK.

This inhaler looks worth trying. off to UK next week. Even if I cut down from 2 packets to one it will be a step in the right direction.
Thanks for the link

Electronic cigarettes have been discussed in several EU countries critically, as they can be abused to smoke not only tobacco in public places without getting recognized (as they do not smell). Not only hash btw...

According to this, it is legal to have and use one in Switzerland, but the sale is prohibited:
http://www.smok-e.de/index.php?optio...&id=6&Itemid=9

Perhaps the inhaler is a better idea than the electronic cigarette.

Tanker driver dragged to court for smoking - even though it was a fake cigarette

The only way to heal an addiction is to heal the cause of the addictive behavior, whatever that might be for you.

Taking other drugs and using tricks may help break a physical addiction, but everyone knows the most difficult to heal is a psychological dependancy on something. If you are smoking then some part of you wants to smoke and believes you are better off smoking than not smoking, otherwise you simply wouldn't do it. Perhaps you are looking for relaxation, or some sort of reward, or some other feeling or sensation you feel only smoking can give you. If you find a way of achieving that sensation in another way than smoking, the smoking will naturally fall out of your life and you probably won't need electronic cigarettes or other drugs to help you.