No. Feral dogs - what does it mean to be human?

Love is a instinct that we all have, even animals. These feral dogs had nothing to gain by taking Roxanna in, giving her warmth and comfort:

I call that instinct God, but I have no right to tell others what to call it. Ultimately it is not important who names it, whoever names it can't own it. You can only wonder at its power and just be so grateful that it exists, whatever unlikely quarter it comes from.

errmm... actually I DID say that people DO use Religion as pretext or justification to kill or committ other crimes.

People without a religion ALSO kill.. Soviet Revolution?

Just a final few thoughts on this before I too leave it.

Only the religious say man is corrupt. They decided this based on the morality supposedly given to us by god.

They go on and on about this corruption of ours, and how we must attone for our sins, that without them, we will never be saved. Without their guiding light we will set ourselves on the path to destruction.

Yet, religion also offers us freedom from morality, we are all sinners after all, religion gives us more power to be immoral, it indulges our immorality and sells forgiveness.

I would say it is religion that is corrupt, even though some here will claim they do not represent religion, the teachings are indistinguishable. You are a sinner, follow my example, or you will not be saved.

I see relative morality mentioned, religion could be seen as a symptom of this existence, when one has done terrible things to survive, they may go looking for forgiveness. Religion wouldn't keep your morals any more constant in terrible situations, in fact, those most assured of their own salvation would be the first to break the moral code to survive, thinking that they'll be forgiven.

That is most often the case!

Actually agree with some of this. Thanks.

I actually don't think man has the capability to strictly adhere to a moral code. He will in some way or form fail to do so. This attests even more so to man's imperfections.

The laws are set to give man an idea of perfection, and in so doing, also show a man how far he is from perfection. This isn't easy for man. It's painful to see how far short he is, and I do understand why some throw in the towel.

......or to god's imperfection for "creating" such a man?

So which one of you was distributing Jesus leaflets in Zurich city few hours ago? I straight away thought about this thread

Morality gets a different perspective when you have not eaten food for 3 days and then you passby a house who are throwing away "leftovers" which could feed half a dozen people..

Or when you've lost your family and any source of income in some accident or whatever in a country with no State welfare fund...

Such times really test a Man's metal, otherwise its easy to argue Religion Vs Evolution or Do we or Do we NOT need God... sitting, fully fed, in the comfort of an air conditioned lounge, having a steady job and some investments.

I know God, coz I believe in Universal Justice, not just Sin and Atonement but the vast differences in lives of people.

With that perspective, there are much more people who are held back by Religion then fractional few who actually do committ atrocities in the name of Religion.

God provided man free-will of the same nature God has. God sought relationship, chosen by will, not by compulsion. Had he wanted obedience by compulsion, he would have made robots.

Ah, glad to hear someone cared enough to do that.

I agree. The thing about religion is that it can become an act of habit and compulsion rather than true love and worship. People lose sight of God when they practice religion for its own sake.

You are telling me all this but the thing is that I don't trust you Tell your god to come to my flat for some biscuits and to talk directly with me.

When its about Money Business/Job... You would probably go to the other end of the World, but expect God to come to you

Actually I don't move for anyone Still to be fair I will pay him a visit if you provide me his address

Hahaha... we might provide you the address but then you will ask for Transportation

just try to find him inside you

he lives within us

1:0 to me then

Again just like Phos I don't trust you Tell god to come out and stop stealing food from my stomach.

God created Us in His image, but the problem began when We started Creating God in Our images

u r really lord of darkness and darkness can only misguide you

You recycle way too many quotes from the net Again I trust you bit more that Ali but still not enough. Just words...

Why not leave the judging part to god? God does not worry me one bit but his followers............