The General iPhone Thread and FAQ

[flow23]

	Quote:	Ed Pummelon
	The headset is descibed on page 16 obviously haven't bothered to read what was explained to you pages back, and as a result you're posting the same old crap on here all over again.

i did like i was told, better how i understood what i am meant to do...did not work out propperly. i had an argument with krlock about it the other day sitting infront of my desktop, setting up the fon etc. and what i got was that synching the fon is like "set up a playlist, chose it, synch it, done" which in fact works ok up to that point after i wanted to synch only one record to the existing ones. did not work out. the way i did it is obviously wrong, i have to check it step-by-step like it has been said in here (that im thankfull for), maybe i was to fast and did not take my time and clicked something or not... what ever.

regarding the earphones: i did not read the whole manual, of course not.
so i assumed them being naturally simple earphones and i know (suprise, surprise) how earphones are used, thats why.

finally synching it is the last thing i have to overcome. apart from that im more n more happy with it...

[dawiz]

	Quote:	flow23
	what i had probs with was battery life. what eats battery most is the email push feature. since i have switched that off...fantastic! battery lasts 2 days now by heavy use of ipod, more to come.

the only thing about switching off push is that push doesn't work anymore after you did that... And as a former blackberry user, I need push. I also find it to be a very good way to save money - as my wife uses an iPhone as well, I don't have to write SMS anymore which saves me about 10-15 Fr. per month

peter

[Nickers]

	Quote:	flow23
	mate, maybe it seems like im sitting here like a buddha with chromosome 23 defect, but it is simply that i dont get the answers to my "problems" on the internet. what ever bullhecking manual i read, i dont get the what i am particularly looking fior. otherwise i wouldnt ask. how in the world shall i know that the earphones now do have a controller after i have asked for it in march? i have never seen anyone so far using it, whether for ipod nor for the iphone. not that it is written on the package somewhere. i never have synched anything ever and i dont like that concept. the prob was: i have set up an new playlist with one record in it. i have clicked "synch list xy" and the whole list was gone. it was synched, but with only one record... i thought this record will be placed within the existing one...

set up a playlist called iPhone, put all music you want on your iphone into this play list, when you want to add another album at a later date add this also to your playlist called iphone, plug in and it will sync and add that music also, if you delete the playlists after you have synced then the next time you plug your iphone in it will sync again and delete the already uploaded playlists because you have removed them from iTunes. - it really is very simple and straight forward

Basically you have to sync - end of (I may be proved wrong here however ) but as far as I know you can't use the iphone like an external hard drive like you can with iPods
Hope this helps

Nicky

[Nickers]

	Quote:	dawiz
	the only thing about switching off push is that push doesn't work anymore after you did that... And as a former blackberry user, I need push. I also find it to be a very good way to save money - as my wife uses an iPhone as well, I don't have to write SMS anymore which saves me about 10-15 Fr. per month peter

We have found the same, me and hubby communicate via email now on our iphones rather than texts and we saw a big dip in our bill this month - but i am getting p'eed off with battery life and was considering turning off push now and again but are you saying if you turn push off and then back on again later it doesn't work? I have had intermittent problems receiving emails since i turned push off and on again a few weeks ago

[Ed Pummelon]

	Quote:	Nicky
	set up a playlist called iPhone, put all music you want on your iphone into this play list, when you want to add another album at a later date add this also to your playlist called iphone, plug in and it will sync and add that music also, if you delete the playlists after you have synced then the next time you plug your iphone in it will sync again and delete the already uploaded playlists because you have removed them from iTunes. - it really is very simple and straight forward .... Hope this helps Nicky

flow, my suggestion - read what Nicky has written (quoted above), then read it again. Carefully. If it's still not clear, go back to around page 28/29 on this thread when you last brought this up, and read the answers you got then. But please, show a bit of respect for the people who are helping you, and stop asking questions that you've already had answers to.

[flow23]

	Quote:	Nicky
	set up a playlist called iPhone

done

	Quote:
	put all music you want on your iphone into this play list

done

	Quote:
	when you want to add another album at a later date add this also to your playlist called iphone, plug in and it will sync and add that music also

question here: does it only synch the latest added record or the whole list again? if this is answered, im completely done. but i can tell now its only uploading the least added stuff. phew!

[Nickers]

	Quote:	flow23
	done done question here: does it only synch the latest added record or the whole list again? if this is answered, im completely done. but i can tell now its only uploading the least added stuff. phew!

I'm not too sure if it syncs all again or just the updated ones (ipods only sync updated MP3's) but i just plug my phone is as I am working and leave it so I am unaware of how long it takes but I know it doesn't take too long to sync and I think I have about 12gig used of my 16gig phone

Just going to try it out now and i'll let you know
Nicky

[robban]

	Quote:	flow23
	question here: does it only synch the latest added record or the whole list again? if this is answered, im completely done. but i can tell now its only uploading the least added stuff. phew!

It, erm, syncs it. It synchronises it. It makes sure that the music on your playlist which is called "iphone" is the same as (in synchronicity with) the music on your iphone. So it checks the two lists and makes the necessary changes, it does not upload all of the songs all over again.

It shouldn't take that long (mine is a minute or two for about 8Gb) providing you have switched off the "do not send crash reports to Apple" option. Now, this has already been covered in this thread, spend a bit of time looking for it first

I must say, I am astounded at how difficult you are making it. I have always maintained that the Apple way of doing things is quicker to learn, eaiser and more logical than the Windows way (I work with Windows and live with Apple). I've had to look up a few things regarding my iphone and am grateful to the people on this thread for the tips and tricks not in the manual, but other than that it seems to me that you are deliberately trying to make it difficult...

[Ed Pummelon]

	Quote:	flow23
	... question here: does it only synch the latest added record or the whole list again? if this is answered, im completely done. but i can tell now its only uploading the least added stuff. phew!

That's the whole point of syncing:

• If it's in the iTunes playlist but not on your iPhone - track added to iPhone

• If it's not in the iTunes playlist but is on your iPhone - track deleted from iPhone

• If it's in the iTunes playlist and on your iPhone - nothing changes (there is nothing to sync)

Therefore if you add a track or tracks to your iTunes playlist, it will simply add those tracks to the iPhone when you next sync. It doesn't rewrite stuff that's already there, that would be pointless, it just takes a moment to check it and then leaves it.

Obviously, given the above, if you create a brand new playlist and change the settings in iTunes to tell your iPhone to sync with that, then you will get whatever is in the new playlist onto your phone, and everything else will disappear. The iPhone will only sync with what you tell it to, using the rules above.

As someone that has the complete contents of his iphone deleted though inadvertantly syncing two PCs (I downloaded an album from itunes at work and copied it to itunes), I hardly think he is making it difficult.

Deletion of existing files should always be something that is specifically requested rather than a sneaky attempt to make sure you are not loading music from multiple sources.

I am wary of any such "syncing" applications.

dave

	Quote:	robban;300877 I must say, I am astounded at how difficult you are making it. I have always maintained that the Apple way of doing things is quicker to learn, eaiser and more logical than the Windows way (I work with Windows and live with Apple). I've had to look up a few things regarding my iphone and am grateful to the people on this thread for the tips and tricks not in the manual, but other than that it seems to me that you are deliberately [I
	trying[/I] to make it difficult...

[robban]

	Quote:	Ed Pummelon
	The iPhone will only sync with what you tell it to, using the rules above.

Quite right, nice one. I hesitate to add this as it may confuse some

Page 65 of the manual (.pdf) explains how you can create a playlist on your iphone. This playlist is transferred to itunes when you next sync and deleted from the phone (though obviously it is then on itunes, it doesn't disappear).

[Worm_Buffet]

Haha flow!
I'm flabbergasted you didn't know about the mic-clicker after having it for weeks now.

You've outdone yourself this time, bravo! I don't think you'll top this.

[Nickers]

	Quote:	Ed Pummelon
	That's the whole point of syncing: If it's in the iTunes playlist but not on your iPhone - track added to iPhone If it's not in the iTunes playlist but is on your iPhone - track deleted from iPhone If it's in the iTunes playlist and on your iPhone - nothing changes (there is nothing to sync) Therefore if you add a track or tracks to your iTunes playlist, it will simply add those tracks to the iPhone when you next sync. It doesn't rewrite stuff that's already there, that would be pointless, it just takes a moment to check it and then leaves it. Obviously, given the above, if you create a brand new playlist and change the settings in iTunes to tell your iPhone to sync with that, then you will get whatever is in the new playlist onto your phone, and everything else will disappear. The iPhone will only sync with what you tell it to, using the rules above.

it does however do a backup each time I plug my phone into my mac, my ipod never did a backup, so I am assuming it doesn't just simply update the newly added songs as per the ipod - still though its not a time consuming job when i do plug in and sync

Nicky

[Nickers]

	Quote:	Worm_Buffet
	Haha flow! I'm flabbergasted you didn't know about the mic-clicker after having it for weeks now. You've outdone yourself this time, bravo! I don't think you'll top this.

enlighten me? I don't know about it either?

[robban]

(replying to Dave A but his post was twice as wide as my screen).

Dave, the one computer restriction is a pain, agreed. It doesn't quite compare with some of the other stuff being regurgitated here, though

[Worm_Buffet]

	Quote:	Nicky
	enlighten me? I don't know about it either?

The thing on the headphone cable that functions as a microphone and a clicker for playing/pausing/advancing track and taking/ending calls.

Et tu, Nicky?

[robban]

	Quote:	Nicky
	enlighten me? I don't know about it either?

Page 16 of the..... manual

[Worm_Buffet]

	Quote:	Nicky
	it does however do a backup each time I plug my phone into my mac, my ipod never did a backup, so I am assuming it doesn't just simply update the newly added songs as per the ipod - still though its not a time consuming job when i do plug in and sync Nicky

The backup saves the entire state of the phone, including apps. Unfortunately, it seems to do a complete backup of every app instead of just the changes, which is why it takes forever if you have a decent amount of apps.

[radical_mit]

	Quote:	Nicky
	I'm not too sure if it syncs all again or just the updated ones (ipods only sync updated MP3's) but i just plug my phone is as I am working and leave it so I am unaware of how long it takes but I know it doesn't take too long to sync and I think I have about 12gig used of my 16gig phone Just going to try it out now and i'll let you know Nicky

Normal mine only sync the differences

[Castro]

	Quote:	Worm_Buffet
	The thing on the headphone cable that functions as a microphone and a clicker for playing/pausing/advancing track and taking/ending calls. Et tu, Nicky?

What is missing for the iPhone is a decent remote for use with your own headphones. I've already got one of these for my Video Ipod and its brilliant but the damn thing doesn't work on my iPhone