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I'm sure many could bake a nice kayak.
now you got me with that one, RD...
Where Ah come from, ya needs a BIG ROTATING MOLD to bake a kayak, and a big sack of powdered polyethelene.
Must be a dish I'm not familiar with..
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Re: Why is it so hard to find a date in Zurich?! (hope my friends wont kill me)

I'd start by looking at the title of the thread. The bit that catches my attention is the "in Zurich" part. I really don't feel that being in Zurich is going to make any difference as to whether you will find a date or not. In fact, I'd say that the "in Zurich" part is an excuse that I've heard many people tack on to the end of their complaint, making it clear that there's absolutely nothing wrong with them or their approach to finding a partner, but it's somehow the city's fault.

When I first came to Zurich I couldn't believe how easy it was to meet the fairer sex. I gave it some thought and decided that it was easy because being here felt like being on an extended holiday and as a result I was completely relaxed. Nothing will scare off a member of the opposite sex as appearing desperate or obsessed with finding a partner.

Further contemplation gave rise to the conclusion that meeting someone in an expat community is easy. There's a large chance that the person you are talking to is also happy to make new friends because they too are in a foreign country and missing the circle of friends that you only build up over time. There's a steady influx of new arrivals in Zurich and they're all out to make new friends.

My advice to your single friends is to not to see every single male they meet as a potential mate. That - I guarantee - will scare men away instantly. Go out, socialise, enjoy life and make as many friends as possible, and relax in the knowledge that nature will take care of the rest.

Just for gods sake stop worrying about it.
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Old 03.01.2010, 13:00
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Hmm. Do any of them want to learn how to roll a kayak?
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Never mind rolling a kayak .After my wife fell out of our canoe I have to paddle by myself
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Never mind rolling a kayak .After my wife fell out of our canoe I have to paddle by myself
What effected you the most: that your wife fell out of the canoe or that you had to paddle by yourself?
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I hope my friends wont kill me for posting this....

While I am happily married for quite a few years, I have not one but THREE female friends who have been single ever since I have met them.

The three are in their late 30's early 40's, and what they have in common is: they are expat, they are senior professionals
I stopped reading there.
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Old 03.01.2010, 13:17
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I really don't feel that being in Zurich is going to make any difference as to whether you will find a date or not. In fact, I'd say that the "in Zurich" part is an excuse that I've heard many people tack on to the end of their complaint, making it clear that there's absolutely nothing wrong with them or their approach to finding a partner, but it's somehow the city's fault.
True I guess, I could say the same thing about Geneva; "Oh, it's so haaaard to meet people here in Geneva these days!"
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When I first came to Zurich I couldn't believe how easy it was to meet the fairer sex. I gave it some thought and decided that it was easy because being here felt like being on an extended holiday and as a result I was completely relaxed. Nothing will scare off a member of the opposite sex as appearing desperate or obsessed with finding a partner.
I fully agree with this. I find myself so relaxed... TOO relaxed when on vacation, business trip etc. Very easy to find a fling that way or at least get to the point where all you need to do is make that little move and she or he is in your arms (mind you, I never made such a move in the past 7 years as I was in a relationship, and yet I travelled 6 months a year on business trips... the temptation was huge, but I'm very much a "devoted" person and believe in staying true to my current parther).

But over here, it just feels too much like "home" (which it of course is), and you seem to know so many people and bump into so many of them wherever you are. So not only are you slightly embarrased or nervous when eyeing up potential mates, you're also worried about bumping into people you know whilst "on the job" (if you see what I mean).

No, not a problem for everyone and I'm exaggerating a little bit, but there's something about it being "harder" here where I live, than elsewhere when I travel out a bit farther. Just the beast of the game I guess
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Old 03.01.2010, 13:18
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What effected you the most: that your wife fell out of the canoe or that you had to paddle by yourself?
My guess is that this was a bit figurative and nobody really fell out of a canoe
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When I first came to Zurich I couldn't believe how easy it was to meet the fairer sex.
With all due respect, sir, this is 180.0° opposed to what I've heard till now.
People in that town - esp attractive women - look you up and down like jewelers to assess how expensive your clothes are. A close Swiss friend of mine in the fashion industry tells me her friends from Paris are intimidated by this ZH 'dress code'. Being a down-home ('use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without') Yankee, I suffered from this for a long time, but have decided I don't need those people in my life.

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I gave it some thought and decided that it was easy because being here felt like being on an extended holiday and as a result I was completely relaxed.
But this is a novel idea (at least for me!) - you're right, when I'm traveling, I find myself naturally striking up conversations with many more people, including attractive women; I'm much more open & willing to take the risk than I am here 'at home'. Hmmm. I will try your method!

Tell her not to fall out
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I'd start by looking at the title of the thread. The bit that catches my attention is the "in Zurich" part. I really don't feel that being in Zurich is going to make any difference as to whether you will find a date or not. In fact, I'd say that the "in Zurich" part is an excuse that I've heard many people tack on to the end of their complaint, making it clear that there's absolutely nothing wrong with them or their approach to finding a partner, but it's somehow the city's fault.

When I first came to Zurich I couldn't believe how easy it was to meet the fairer sex. I gave it some thought and decided that it was easy because being here felt like being on an extended holiday and as a result I was completely relaxed. Nothing will scare off a member of the opposite sex as appearing desperate or obsessed with finding a partner. -

Lol, there could be some truth in that it's the city's fault!

whats your secret for meeting the opposite sex??
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My guess is that this was a bit figurative and nobody really fell out of a canoe
Oh my God... Iīm sorry... Thatīs really embarrasing now.
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With all due respect, sir, this is 180.0° opposed to what I've heard till now.
People in that town - esp attractive women - look you up and down like jewelers to assess how expensive your clothes are.
And with all due respect, I suggest you reconsider the social events and venues you attend.

Designer clothes and expensive handbags are no substitute for a personality.
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What effected you the most: that your wife fell out of the canoe or that you had to paddle by yourself?
I won`t go into details here ,but paddling by myself was the easy part

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My guess is that this was a bit figurative and nobody really fell out of a canoe
I forgive you for this statement because you are German

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Tell her not to fall out
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sorry I just had to.
I did , but what you want she is Irish

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Old 03.01.2010, 13:42
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And with all due respect, I suggest you reconsider the social events and venues you attend.

Designer clothes and expensive handbags are no substitute for a personality.
The truth is somewhere between your two opinions. I must say that I in principle agree to Glendyn: There are damn many "trophy wifes in spe" in Zurich. They are looking at your car, watch and any other sign of your wealth. I do know some fairly wealthy guys here who are bored to get reduced to the Porsche they drive - I find it very entertaining to hear bankers or lawyers complaining about "the materialistic view some have on the world"

On the other hand is there a colorful social life in Zurich and you do not need to go to the latest posh place, but have plenty of alternatives. I for one found some of those alternatives weird in their own sense... I would say that it is only me, but I have the feeling that if so many complain about Zurich, it cannot be always only themselves. (I am not only talking about dates as I have no need for those - "regular" contacts an friends are the same story here...)
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Old 03.01.2010, 13:54
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My guess is that this was a bit figurative and nobody really fell out of a canoe
Ups! the penny fell,filthy minded people here But it really happened
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Ups! the penny fell,filthy minded people here But it really happened
Ok, so I over-interpreted you... sorry. I am used to this here...people speak in riddles and I am still trying to figure out what "baking a kayak" could potentially mean?
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Re: Why is it so hard to find a date in Zurich?! (hope my friends wont kill me)

Stop reading Cosmopolitan etc and accept the fact that any bloke who meets the Mr Right ideals will be gay.

aka "Compromise"

A quick Google turned up this: Can't find Mr. Right? Compromise, don't settle and this too
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Ok, so I over-interpreted you... sorry. I am used to this here...people speak in riddles and I am still trying to figure out what "baking a kayak" could potentially mean?
May be the female do not Fancy to roll a kayak,there More interested in baking .Penny falling And no need to be sorry ,made me laugh
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I'm with those in this thread who suggest that your friends stop looking. Tell them to drop the dating websites, the parsnips, and all that other 'goal oriented' nonsense and just get out there and live.

So long as a person is actively seeking a partner, people around them will part like the Red Sea. Desperation is obvious - you can see it in their eyes.

Tell them to go to events, have fun, get drunk (if that's their thing), enjoy pointless persiflage, forget that they are 'professionals' and just enjoy the company of others - whether those others be bankers, artists, layabouts, drunkards, accountants, teachers, full-time mothers or wandering holy men. OK, maybe not bankers, perhaps... but people, real people that aren't in their line of work, and don't give a fig for the label on their handbags or the size of their salaries.

They should not seek a particular kind of man, nor should they reject a particular kind of man. They should not, above all, attempt to alter a man to suit their whims (telling him he is too fat or doesn't earn enough will not encourage him to lose weight or get another job... he will simply stop replying to your text messages... yes, dear: You know who you are).

Ticklists are absolutely out of order. If I'd adhered to a ticklist when I met my Learned Companion, then I'd still be living a life of entertaining, but ultimately pointless, bacchanalian excess. She met none of my normal criteria, with the exception of being a woman, and I thank God every day that she didn't.

Let your friends allow themselves to be surprised, disappointed, misled, entertained, bored to death.

But, more than anything else, tell them to ditch the 'professional' label. If anything is guaranteed to induce instant penile droopage, that phrase takes the biscuit.

Or at least it shares the biscuit with "I used to be a man".

Wish them luck from me!
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Re: Why is it so hard to find a date in Zurich?! (hope my friends wont kill me)

I tend to agree with DB.

It is the cruel phenomenon that inflicts many middle-age female professionals...they put their personal lives (and dreams) on hold to climb the career ladder. Unfortunately for many, the sudden desire to put personal lives upfront comes crashing through when they realise their time to start a family is running out. And suddenly the joy of socialising becomes a task of desperation.

If they enjoy sports and outdoors, there is a start. There are plenty of outdoor event portals (EF is one of them) where they can meet others. Short term, they need to drop their standards and have fun...long term they need to compromise and determine what they are prepared to sacrifice for companionship.

And if they are proffesionals, another word of advice. In business, there are dream employees, colleagues, and managers. But in our late 30's/early 40's, there is no such thing as a dream partner...every has baggage of some stage by this time.
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