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Could be or it could be that we are just socialised into thinking that we need to meet someone, get married and have kids (just watch any chick flick, brainwashing pure brainwashing)
Now donít get me wrong there is nothing wrong with this if itís what you want
Yes, everyone else is brainwashed and you are flying the flag of individualism and kreyyyzzzaniness. There's probably no-one else in the world like you.

Never mind that the process of finding a mate and having kids is erm... hard-coded in out our evolutionary nature, and that of every other mammal on the planet, eh?
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Old 03.01.2010, 19:08
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Re: Why is it so hard to find a date in Zurich?! (hope my friends wont kill me)

wow, I went to the cinema at the 34th reply to this thread, and look at it now!!! over 110!
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Old 03.01.2010, 19:15
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Guess Iím just a genetic mutant
explains why you're single then
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Old 03.01.2010, 19:15
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OUCH
Iím 42 and hardly ever wear makeup (and if I do itís very little) try snowboarding with mascara running down your face,.
Anyone who knows me, including my male friends, would say Iím the most down to earth easy going person they know (outside of work) and I donít do complicated.
The problem is I canít find a man who wants to (and can because heís fit enough) snowboard, mountain bike, hike and doesnít want kids. I thought this was the 21st century but a lot of men still want a barefoot and pregnant woman in the kitchen, go figure
Oh boy. When I read this, I thought of quite a few married men who are starting their mid-life crisis stage and would love a woman like you. Independent, no kids, active, sport-loving....all the things they crave to prove their manhood before reaching old-age.

I'm sure you've met these kind of men mountain biking. Please remember they've got wives at home who are watching the kids, doing the laundry and cooking dinner. Don't tempt these mixed-up, adrenalin-powered, lost souls of men because it will cause heartache for many parties concerned and nobody will be happy in the end.
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Old 03.01.2010, 19:19
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I'm sure you've met these kind of men mountain biking. Please remember they've got wives at home who are watching the kids, doing the laundry and cooking dinner. Don't tempt these mixed-up, adrenalin-powered, lost souls of men because it will cause heartache for many parties concerned and nobody will be happy in the end.
ooohhh DOUBLE OUCH I have NEVER and would never look at a guy with a girlfriend let alone a wife
Iíve been on the receiving end of a scenario like this, so no lectures needed here
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Old 03.01.2010, 19:21
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I'm sure you've met these kind of men mountain biking. Please remember they've got wives at home who are watching the kids, doing the laundry and cooking dinner. Don't tempt these mixed-up, adrenalin-powered, lost souls of men because it will cause heartache for many parties concerned and nobody will be happy in the end.

whoooaaa steady on there Olygirl!

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Old 03.01.2010, 19:22
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Re: Why is it so hard to find a date in Zurich?! (hope my friends wont kill me)

My husband almost fell for a mountain bike rider and I am still very, very hurt. My post was really a cry to all those flirty mtb women who forget there's a life beyond biking.

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Old 03.01.2010, 19:24
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My husband almost fell for a woman like you and I am still very, very hurt. My post was really a cry to all those flirty mtb women who forget there's a life beyond biking.

can understand your hurt but i think it's a bit harsh to brandish MTB women as all flirty etc....
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Never mind that the process of finding a mate and having kids is erm... hard-coded in out our evolutionary nature, and that of every other mammal on the planet, eh?
Actually NO;

Sex is hardcoded and the result is children if protection isn't used.
Marriage and sole partner (well not anymore) is programmed into us by government/propoganda; animals do not stay faithfull or stick to one partner (except Swans and Pigeons supposedly).
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Old 03.01.2010, 19:34
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can understand your hurt but i think it's a bit harsh to brandish MTB women as all flirty etc....
Not my intention to brand all mtb women as flirty. My post was to all of those single mtb women who are flirty with married mtb men.
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I think women are getting a tough deal in this thread.

First of all, not all women want to have children. Not all men do either, nothing wrong with that. I watched my friends have them in their 30s and decided I was not made for motherhood.

And not all women between 40 and 45 are crazy and over made up.

Professional women are not all evil sharks in designer shoes (I'm paraphrasing that one), sometimes you're just a smart woman who ends up in a good job. What are you supposed to do? No guys would be faulted for taking advantage of an opportunity.

Everyone brings baggage with them in a relationship. It changes over time. Some people are ready to marry at 20, others at 40. No one should ever have to change in essentials to be in a relationship ®if you can't appreciate each other, you need to find new partners.

And while mammals are hardwired to reproduce, humans do have some choice in the matter.


I married at 40 to a man 8 years younger than I. I had less baggage than I did at 25. No kids, but we have a dog. We may get another dog.

I do think the OP has received lots of useful advice. I can't add anything there. Oh one thing... lots of women won't consider younger men. Be open minded.
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Not my intention to brand all mtb women as flirty. My post was to all of those single mtb women who are flirty with married mtb men.

I'm sorry for your experience, but it works both ways. There are flirty mbt men, too.... who may or may not reveal their married state.

Oh crap, I just realized I was typing mbt, as in the weird shoe, not mtb for moutain bike. I'm glad it was only an almost tho.... but that's hard enough.
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Old 03.01.2010, 20:01
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Call me crazy but have you tried smiling at them first
compared to London people here are really nice and friendly, people on the tram even speak to you (and not just the crazy ones) bus drivers wish you a pleasant day, this is a tip top (as the Swiss would say) friendly place
I used to do this. I stopped. People look at you as if you are a deranged psycho who is about to rob them.

Perhaps females can get away with this here but I certainly couldn't.
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Old 03.01.2010, 20:01
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Re: Why is it so hard to find a date in Zurich?! (hope my friends wont kill me)

I'm not going to get involved in this thread other than to make a couple of points:
a) there are men who enjoy intelligent, educated, and successful women. you've just limited the pool of dates available to you, however. the question is: how desperate are you?
b) when I was dating, I found that women who described themselves as 'athletic' and 'loved outdoor sports' always meant that to mean "I like to go out for slow walks in the park or on a beach". if men lie about what they want in a relationship, this is women's little lie back at them.
c) when women complain about there 'not being any men to date', what that generally means is 'no one is approaching me and asking me out'. think about why that might be and why you are being passive. successful women didn't get to be successful by being passive. however, they seem to fall into cultural norms when it comes to dating. any man that tells you he doesn't like being pursued by an intelligent attractive woman is either lying or a raging egomanic best avoided anyway.
d) women should stop the 'playing hard to get' game. 99% of men don't under stand that **** and think you just don't like them. the other 1% are raging egomaniacs and are best avoided anyway.
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youíre not the first (and wonít be the last) person to call me crazy for not wanting my own kids
Guess Iím just a genetic mutant
No I know plenty of people who don't want kids, I was taking the mick out of that you stating believe you are some kind of "mad mad crazy extreme different" type of person to everyone else, when there are plenty with your kind of mindset.

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Actually NO;

Sex is hardcoded and the result is children if protection isn't used.
Marriage and sole partner (well not anymore) is programmed into us by government/propoganda; animals do not stay faithfull or stick to one partner (except Swans and Pigeons supposedly).
Reproduction is hard-coded as a direct result of sexual desire, from an evolutionary point of view the only reason it feels good and we want more is so that we keep doing it and keep popping out more sprogs. Contraceptive protection for human beings and the choice of not having children despite lots of nookie was a comparatively recent development invention in the grand scheme of human history.

I also think that if it were not for marriage throughout history that the world would have been a very different place, and not for the better. It wasn't always about love, but it ensured healthy bloodlines and the best chance of successfully raising offspring in a stable environment.
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My husband almost fell for a mountain bike rider and I am still very, very hurt. My post was really a cry to all those flirty mtb women who forget there's a life beyond biking.
Flirty MTB women? SUBSCRIBE!

Where are they?
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any man that tells you he doesn't like being pursued by an intelligent attractive woman is either lying or a raging egomanic best avoided anyway.
True - but when that woman describes herself as 'professional', then all her intelligence and attractiveness should count for naught: She is clearly mad, self-obsessed and a little bit scary.

Same goes for gentlemen who describe themselves as 'professional', too.

Bring back the amateur. That's where true happiness lies.
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It wasn't always about love, but it ensured healthy bloodlines and the best chance of successfully raising offspring in a stable environment.
... with the notable exception of various royal families!

Jacob Bronowski put it very well when he said, 'We may not always be picky about who we go to bed with, but we are very picky about who we have children with'
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Re: Why is it so hard to find a date in Zurich?! (hope my friends wont kill me)

Why is it always the same old story: can't-find-anyone to suit me, my interests, my life, me, me, me..

How about going out and being completely interested in meeting, getting to know the opposite sex, becoming absorbed by their interests, their thinking, passions..

It's like looking at a work of Art or listening to a type of music, might not be for you but give it a go and see what happens.. there's so much fun to be had and so many different people to meet.. thinking too much can interfere with living.
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Re: Why is it so hard to find a date in Zurich?! (hope my friends wont kill me)

This equality thing is to blame; women have become too liberated. Whatever happened to good, soft-spoken meek women who didn't object to whatever the man did, understood his sentiments when he wanted to go to the pub to meet the guys, focussed on keeping the house clean (lest he get upset) and lovingly endured the whip every once in a while (for their own good)?
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