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Eh, this might sound stupid, but what is a girl supposed to do in this situation? When I'm not interested is not enough?
One small practical measure - not a solution, but a delaying tactic - is to get your phone out, ring a good male friend (preferably one who lives nearby, if possible), greet him with a loud "Hey darling, I'll be home in a couple of minutes, put the kettle on!" and continue chatting animatedly to him, all the time keeping a cautious eye and ear on your surroundings, until you get somewhere where there are people.

In fact, it's even advisable to go to a bar or cafe rather than home, so the creep doesn't get to know where you live.

I use the mobile phone trick when I'm somewhere I feel uncomfortable, and I'm a bloke! It also means that, should something unpleasant happen while you're on the way home, at least someone knows that there's something wrong.

Of course, this is no substitution for caution, avoiding lonely places, and taking care, but technology has its uses...
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Old 11.03.2010, 14:08
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I have also had this experience as OP here in Switzerland. A guy followed me around when I was out with my dog. When I stopped for a break, he stopped too and watched me and continued following me when I start walking again. VERY uncomfterable, VERY creepy and yes I got a little scared. I did all the signs that I was not interested in communicating with him, but nothing seamed to work.
Eh, this might sound stupid, but what is a girl supposed to do in this situation? When I'm not interested is not enough?
Stay public. Don't dart down alleys and whatnot trying to lose him. Don't go home.

Call a friend - to come meet you if possible, otherwise to have a good long (loud) chat about how this idiot is following you. Describe him precisely and audibly.

If someone is following you, you have to assume he is going to approach you eventually. Where would you like to be when he does? Go there. For me this means a busy café. If he approaches me in there, good: better that than following me around, right? Once he's approached, I can be as rude as necessary to convey lack of interest.
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Old 11.03.2010, 14:25
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I get the sense stalking and lurking are part of the pursuit ritual in Switzerland.

How Mongo!

What happened to dinner; followed by a movie, concert or disco; then see how you feel about everything at the end. Did that ritual just not make it to this side of the world?
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Old 11.03.2010, 14:26
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Re: Is there such a thing as being "partially racist"?

I had an interesting experinece on a train in Germany recently.

There was an African guy sitting one row down from me and a woman came and asked him to leave. Apparently she had a reservation. He refused so the woman called the ticket inspector and he asked the African to move and explained to him that he couldn't sit there because the woman had reserved the seat. I could see the African wasn't quite understanding him and was getting increasingly irate. He obviously couldn't speak much German or English. So I went over and tried to help by explaining in French, which he could speak. He asked me to explain that he had a ticket and he had bought it legally and held this up for all to see. I tried to explain, it's not your ticket that's the problem but the fact that you need a reservation to occupy this seat. He refused to listen to that bit and bickered on about racism for a bit, and that they wouldn't be doing this to him if he were white. I tried to explain it wasn't that but he wouldn't listen. So I gave up and returned to my seat. The inspector finally managed to evict him from his seat and the African spent the rest of the journey strutting up and down the corridor randomly picking on people and accusing them of being racists and nazis.
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Old 11.03.2010, 14:33
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Re: Is there such a thing as being "partially racist"?

Thats quite creepy and not at all racist.
The guy is a weirdo.
There is no way you would approach a girl this way if you actually wanted a date.
This has happend to you before!
Your either drop dead georgeous or wearing some kind of wierdo attracting perfume.
I wonder what that would be called something like Rohipnol for women, when you really don't want to remember.
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Old 11.03.2010, 14:37
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One small practical measure - not a solution, but a delaying tactic - is to get your phone out, ring a good male friend (preferably one who lives nearby, if possible), greet him with a loud "Hey darling, I'll be home in a couple of minutes, put the kettle on!" and continue chatting animatedly to him, all the time keeping a cautious eye and ear on your surroundings, until you get somewhere where there are people.

In fact, it's even advisable to go to a bar or cafe rather than home, so the creep doesn't get to know where you live.

I use the mobile phone trick when I'm somewhere I feel uncomfortable, and I'm a bloke! It also means that, should something unpleasant happen while you're on the way home, at least someone knows that there's something wrong.

Of course, this is no substitution for caution, avoiding lonely places, and taking care, but technology has its uses...
Yeah thats great now we really need a bunch of women walking up and down the road shouting down their mobile phones as to not atract any attention from afro people at the slightest chance of one passing by them.
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Yeah thats great now we really need a bunch of women walking up and down the road shouting down their mobile phones as to not atract any attention from afro people at the slightest chance of one passing by them.
I'm sorry if concern for the safety of women offends you.
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Yeah thats great now we really need a bunch of women walking up and down the road shouting down their mobile phones as to not atract any attention from afro people at the slightest chance of one passing by them.

oookay... erh...
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Thats quite creepy and not at all racist.
The guy is a weirdo.
There is no way you would approach a girl this way if you actually wanted a date.
This has happend to you before!
Your either drop dead georgeous or wearing some kind of wierdo attracting perfume.
I wonder what that would be called something like Rohipnol for women, when you really don't want to remember.
I've been told I have a 'nice lady face', people randomly trust me with their kids, their possessions, whatever. So it's probably that...
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Old 11.03.2010, 14:41
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I knew a guy whose advance consisted of walking up to a girl and asking 'Do ya wanna f**k?'. 99 times out of a 100, he got slapped. And, no, the remaining option is that he did not go home alone without being slapped.
I doubt his race made any difference.
Have you ever walked along Müllerstrasse at night? You get asked that at every street corner.
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I'm sorry if concern for the safety of women offends you.

Who are you kidding? do you not think women can hold their own?

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Old 11.03.2010, 14:42
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Don't worry chaps, I shan't feed this troll any more.

Perhaps he'd have a different attitude if he actually had a woman in his life to care about.
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I have felt uncomfortable when walking along the street and men walking past really have to make eye contact and stare, sometimes it's as if they haven't seen a woman before. Also men driving vans beeping at you and on several occasions men have shouted things at me (couldn't understand anyway) but totally freaks me out and i have even had an old man shaking his bits at me which made me so angry but i didn't say anything i just carried on walking. (All this has been in broad daylight and in France) The thing is though if i was at home in England i would have no worries about telling them where to get off, it's just the difference in Culture, I don't know how they would react if i reacted so i just don't....makes me feel a bit vulnerable and i am not that type really.
I don't feel racist because of it, it's just that i am not on home ground and so i really don't know if this is normal (obv minus the old man, i know this is not normal, he obviously had mental problems) and i am not about to kick off and make a scene for fear of their reaction.
I think maybe the guy thought he was complimenting you by following you home, maybe this is ok in his culture....who knows....glad you were firm and not scared by it coz i think i would've totally been freaked and not want to go out again....i think it's sad that your good manners and polite conversation gave him the 'Green Light' to potentially make you feel threatened and vulnerable. People should be able to exchange polite conversation on the tram without fear of being followed home.
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Don't worry chaps, I shan't feed this troll any more.

Perhaps he'd have a different attitude if he actually had a woman in his life to care about.
The only troll out there is the one who thinks he is of the BBC Fast show, "Who me in a young ladies dormitory at 3am???"
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Who are you kidding? do you not think women can hold their own?
NO :
-when you are pounced on unaware, unprepared
-when the attacker has a weapon
-when you are alone, and there is more than one attacker
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NO :
-when you are pounced on unaware, unprepared
-when the attacker has a weapon
-when you are alone, and there is more than one attacker
Wow what paranioa???
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I have felt uncomfortable when walking along the street and men walking past really have to make eye contact and stare
There's a big difference between making eye contact and staring. When I pass somebody in say, a narrow alley I find it more spooky when they intentionally avoid eye contact. It's as if they have something to hide.
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Wow what paranioa???
are you serious? it is not limited to women either, i have had male friends who were attacked - robbed....get a reality check
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NO :
-when you are pounced on unaware, unprepared
-when the attacker has a weapon
-when you are alone, and there is more than one attacker
Sometimes I'm glad I'm built like your average welsh dresser, but that's not much use if there is a weapon. I don't worry about walking home alone at night, maybe I should...
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are you serious? it is not limited to women either, i have had male friends who were attacked - robbed....get a reality check

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