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Old 11.03.2010, 14:52
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Who are you kidding? do you not think women can hold their own?
Dude, I can easily handle eye contacts, staring and approches. Usually it is enough to say no for a guy to back off.
But when you are been fallowed for 20-30 minuets by a guy you know is physically stronger than you, that can be scary.
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Old 11.03.2010, 14:55
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Dude, I can easily handle eye contacts, staring and approches. Usually it is enough to say no for a guy to back off.
But when you are been fallowed for 20-30 minuets by a guy you know is physically stronger than you, that can be scary.

As fear is based on something that we think may happen in the future, it is clearly a mental process which tries to predict the future - in that sense, the reason of fear is a projection of our mind.
We can be afraid to fall, but once we are falling, we are afraid to hit the ground, once we hit the ground, we may fear we have a bad injury, once we know we have a bad injury, we may fear the pain and the consequences of not being able to work for some time or become disabled etc. So one could say that fear is always based on something that has not happened yet, and is therefore a fantasy of our mind rather than fact.
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Old 11.03.2010, 14:58
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Yeah thats great now we really need a bunch of women walking up and down the road shouting down their mobile phones as to not atract any attention from afro people at the slightest chance of one passing by them.
1. Afro or not is not the point. Following me or not is the point.
2. For future reference, "following" ≠ "passing by"

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As fear is based on something that we think may happen in the future, it is clearly a mental process which tries to predict the future - in that sense, the reason of fear is a projection of our mind.
We can be afraid to fall, but once we are falling, we are afraid to hit the ground, once we hit the ground, we may fear we have a bad injury, once we know we have a bad injury, we may fear the pain and the consequences of not being able to work for some time or become disabled etc. So one could say that fear is always based on something that has not happened yet, and is therefore a fantasy of our mind rather than fact.
...and therefore?

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There's a big difference between making eye contact and staring. When I pass somebody in say, a narrow alley I find it more spooky when they intentionally avoid eye contact. It's as if they have something to hide.
I would never walk alone down a narrow alley but i suppose your right, if i did and someone was walking the opposite way i would probably say hello. I'm talking about when walking down a street and someone is approaching and doesn't take their eyes off you, fair enough if they want to say hello and greet you but when they just stare it's kinda creepy.
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Old 11.03.2010, 15:26
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Re: Is there such a thing as being "partially racist"?

We´re all racists to a degree because we´re human..

I think the situation you found yourself in, would almost certainly now effect how you view men from the Sierra Leone.
Though what you described would have been terrifying for anyone, I dont believe you were traumatised by the experience..

How racist you are can probably be best judged by your reaction to meeting a native in person, and i dont believe you would find yourself in an uncontrollable rage hurling racist abuse. More than likely, you would just be on guard.

I wonder if you could even neutralise these racism through a favourable encounter with another native ?
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Old 11.03.2010, 15:53
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We´re all racists to a degree because we´re human..

I think the situation you found yourself in, would almost certainly now effect how you view men from the Sierra Leone.
Though what you described would have been terrifying for anyone, I dont believe you were traumatised by the experience..

How racist you are can probably be best judged by your reaction to meeting a native in person, and i dont believe you would find yourself in an uncontrollable rage hurling racist abuse. More than likely, you would just be on guard.

I wonder if you could even neutralise these racism through a favourable encounter with another native ?
I'd even venture to say that this shows how sensitive the racism issue has become. You have one negative experience with a person of particular race and you think racism is involved although there is no reason to assume racism comes into the equation.
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Old 11.03.2010, 16:18
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Re: Is there such a thing as being "partially racist"?

@Swissinfo

You don't happen to be from Sierra Leone, like iPhones and travelling on trains by any chance?
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Old 11.03.2010, 17:00
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Re: Is there such a thing as being "partially racist"?

^Certainly seems keen to have women interested in strangers, doesn't he?

I was definitely not traumatised by the event, takes a bit more than that to scare me but then I don't perceive myself as "vulnerable". Last fight I got into, I won.

My mum once said to me "at least you still get noticed" when I was ranting on about being hit on by African men, which certainly shut me up. And an African-born female friend of mine explained that women think men who take no for an answer are weak, there has to be a game. Me, I'm not into games other than ones involving dice, pencil and paper, referees, tennis racquets, etc. (not mentioning blindfolds, balls or joysticks on purpose, as I'm sure people will get the wrong idea) and don't like to make other people lose face either, so I find this sort of situation very uncomfortable.

But this thread is not just about this individual experience, I see that other women have had the same sort of thing happen to them. Does it apply to other situations too? Am I allowed to not want to get to know someone who comes from a culture that I perceive as being alien to mine? Most seem to feel that this is fine. I wonder what these young chaps get told at the integration courses they apparently have/had to do, is the issue of meeting women addressed? Also - I know that some Swiss women think "Blacks" are the best thing since sliced bread and will make an effort to go to events that are aimed at that community. However, these girls then face abuse by some of the black women there, at least from what I've been told.
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Old 11.03.2010, 17:19
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Re: Is there such a thing as being "partially racist"?

Of course you are under no obligation to look beyond your own creed or culture, and you shouldn´t, because there are others who are predisposed to do this.. it is nature´s way to ensure the continuation of the species and the diversity we enjoy.
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Old 11.03.2010, 17:22
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And an African-born female friend of mine explained that women think men who take no for an answer are weak, there has to be a game.
Ha, okay got a confession to make. But I am a woman after all, and have legal rights to be complicated.
I love the game and I love being chased.
But erh, watch for the thin line of facial expression of a scared woman and a woman enjoying a little game.
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Old 11.03.2010, 17:33
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Re: Is there such a thing as being "partially racist"?

Kittster if a man or woman followed me home then I would be taken aback irrespective of how smart, scruffy, black, white or brown they looked.
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Old 11.03.2010, 17:38
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Ha, okay got a confession to make. But I am a woman after all, and have legal rights to be complicated.
I love the game and I love being chased.
But erh, watch for the thin line of facial expression of a scared woman and a woman enjoying a little game.
Ah.

See, I'm very simple - if I'm interested, you will probably know and I'm not able to pretend I'm not interested. This is unfortunate because men like the chase and the one time I followed a friends advice and played hard to get, well, the guy certainly did seem to want to keep me after he caught me. So it does work but I find it very tedious and a bit of a waste of time. Life is short.

If I'm not interested, no amount of drink or sweet talking or flower sending will make me change my mind. In fact, I'll probably have the dogs set on you. But I'm very sweet somewhere inside, honest!
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Old 11.03.2010, 18:15
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Re: Is there such a thing as being "partially racist"?

I don't know on what drugs swissinfo is but it's most certainly an uncomfortable situation to be in and I hope you don't get to experience the same again!
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For the many out there who are confused about Swiss women, take heed - A Swiss woman:

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Ah.

See, I'm very simple - if I'm interested, you will probably know and I'm not able to pretend I'm not interested. This is unfortunate because men like the chase and the one time I followed a friends advice and played hard to get, well, the guy certainly did seem to want to keep me after he caught me. So it does work but I find it very tedious and a bit of a waste of time. Life is short.

If I'm not interested, no amount of drink or sweet talking or flower sending will make me change my mind. In fact, I'll probably have the dogs set on you. But I'm very sweet somewhere inside, honest!
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Old 11.03.2010, 18:31
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^Half, Phos, half.
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Old 11.03.2010, 18:44
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[QUOTE=Pat's ex;735890]@Swissinfo

You don't happen to be from Sierra Leone, like iPhones and travelling on trains by any chance?[/QUOTIPhone thanks

Yes I do have an IPHONE thanks

But I don`t believe in burying my head in it or being so scared of anyone talking to me and neither should the opposite sex, Switzerland in General is a far more safer country than some other places in the world, this guy was probably trying his best to make a freind and thats all the rest is just Paranioa.

As for Mathnut`s question:

Hey come on figure out what do need a diagram or do you work in colour by numbers???
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But I don`t believe in burying my head in it or being so scared of anyone talking to me and neither should the opposite sex, Switzerland in General is a far more safer country than some other places in the world, this guy was probably trying his best to make a freind and thats all the rest is just Paranioa.

Don't you think a certain style or culture should be learned by guys like these, lest they freak out the objects of his interest? Sure, it might work for Begga. But it apparently doesn't work for Kittster. So whose problem is it?
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Don't you think a certain style or culture should be learned by guys like these, lest they freak out the objects of his interest? Sure, it might work for Begga. But it apparently doesn't work for Kittster. So whose problem is it?
Yes you are so right who's problem is it? Not mine, just those who are so paraniod......
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Old 11.03.2010, 19:11
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Perhaps he'd have a different attitude if he actually had a woman in his life to care about.
Seems that some people just look for create dissent - thanks for the reminder that's what he is looking for.
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It's not paranoia when it's based on real experience, my dear.

And I'm not SCARED of men talking to me because they are interested, I just rather they didn't. Which is why I dress pretty much like a granny and don't wear make-up when I'm going about my daily business.

Also, FYI, guys don't randomly chat up girls because they are interested in platonic friendships. Really, they don't.
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