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Old 28.04.2010, 20:07
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Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

Can all the people who talk to aliens keep quiet from now on? Seriously though if aliens ever get here then I think they will either take us as sex slaves, use us as fodder or simply slaughter us.

The way most humans act I feel that aliens are already amongst us





http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7107207.ece

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He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and then move on: ďWe only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldnít want to meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.Ē
He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is ďa little too riskyĒ. He said: ďIf aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didnít turn out very well for the Native Americans.Ē
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Old 29.04.2010, 07:33
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

You lot have no respect for Aliens!
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Old 29.04.2010, 07:43
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

I read that and thought it was funny.

Stephen Hawking stating that involvement with aliens could be potentially dangerous because they just may be a little too much like us.


Be afraid, be very afraid!
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Old 29.04.2010, 09:04
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

Saberhagen berserkers anyone? ( Like Santa - have you been goodlife or have you been badlife ).
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Old 29.04.2010, 09:15
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Can all the people who talk to aliens keep quiet from now on? Seriously though if aliens ever get here then I think they will either take us as sex slaves, use us as fodder or simply slaughter us.

The way most humans act I feel that aliens are already amongst us





http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7107207.ece
You have to remember that Hawking is a physicist. He has not considered that evolved life on one planet might be highly dangerous to life evolved on a different planet due to the microbes. Our own DNA sequences are a mess of viral invasions from the past and the same viruses and bacteria could be highly dangerous to other life forms. As for resources, aliens could get that from asteroids or planets such as Mars that have lost their atmospheres. Getting it from planets with existing abundant life on them offers no advantage - only disadvantages. The only *risk* from advanced alien life could be if we ventured into space in a big way armed with powerful weapons and we became regarded as a threat. Maybe what we have done already could be regarded as a threat because we have ventured into space, we have nuclear weapons, and our society is seen as unstable and dangerous. We might get nuked by aliens just for good measure.
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

I'd talk to aliens if they look like her...
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

Are you an alien? C'mon, you can tell us.... we're all friends here!
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Old 29.04.2010, 09:53
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You have to remember that Hawking is a physicist. He has not considered that evolved life on one planet might be highly dangerous to life evolved on a different planet due to the microbes. Our own DNA sequences are a mess of viral invasions from the past and the same viruses and bacteria could be highly dangerous to other life forms. As for resources, aliens could get that from asteroids or planets such as Mars that have lost their atmospheres. Getting it from planets with existing abundant life on them offers no advantage - only disadvantages. The only *risk* from advanced alien life could be if we ventured into space in a big way armed with powerful weapons and we became regarded as a threat. Maybe what we have done already could be regarded as a threat because we have ventured into space, we have nuclear weapons, and our society is seen as unstable and dangerous. We might get nuked by aliens just for good measure.

hmm not sure how many planets have water and oxygen in abundance on them. Did the original series of V and independence day teach you nothing??
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Old 29.04.2010, 09:56
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hmm not sure how many planets have water and oxygen in abundance on them. Did the original series of V and independence day teach you nothing??
Search on "Kuiper belt". I am guessing most solar systems will have the equivalent so there is plenty of water to be had and hence plenty of oxygen if you have the energy to split the water.
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Old 29.04.2010, 10:26
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Search on "Kuiper belt". I am guessing most solar systems will have the equivalent so there is plenty of water to be had and hence plenty of oxygen if you have the energy to split the water.
Our biggest fear about aliens could be more to do with any artifical intelligence automated defence systems they have created where these defence systems might far outlast the civilisation that created it and be running independently. There might be such systems that drift from solar system to solar system searching for potentially hostile civilisations with the intent of eliminating them with a mass nuclear strike if one of them is seen as a threat. If one of these systems encounters a suspect civilisation then expect them to check out the type of craft already sent into space, the airframe capabilities of atmosphere based craft and the nuclear power capabilities. To check on nuclear power capabilities then nuclear establishments could easily be spied on by hovering craft to pick up cathode ray tube transmissions to see what they have built in terms of nuclear devices. For atmospheric air-frame capabilities then they could use automated craft to "near miss" such atmospheric craft and record their evasion manoeuvres. Perhaps this has already been done. I have read about near misses with alien craft and also nuclear establishments calling up the air force to chase away spy craft.
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Old 29.04.2010, 10:29
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

If aliens are concerned that we might be like a super-bacteria for them, then the simplest solution to get their scaly tentacles on our assets, is to blow up the planet, then mine the rubble.
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Old 29.04.2010, 10:32
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If aliens are concerned that we might be like a super-bacteria for them, then the simplest solution to get their scaly tentacles on our assets, is to blow up the planet, then mine the rubble.
There are plenty of planets that have already been pulled apart. There is no need to break up any others as a consequence. We have an asteroid belt, remember? This won't be unusual to find in other solar systems.
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

Luckily the only aliens we have to worry about are the ones on the same time/space continuum as us. Its the ones who slipped through the wrong worm hole that i worry about.
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Luckily the only aliens we have to worry about are the ones on the same time/space continuum as us. Its the ones who slipped through the wrong worm hole that i worry about.
the Daleks are coming.... exterminate...
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

Those aliens will be in a lot of trouble if they arrive in Switzerland on a Sunday...
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Old 29.04.2010, 10:46
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I'd talk to aliens if they look like her...
Not too sure that you would be doing much talking...
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Our biggest fear about aliens could be more to do with any artifical intelligence automated defence systems they have created where these defence systems might far outlast the civilisation that created it and be running independently. There might be such systems that drift from solar system to solar system searching for potentially hostile civilisations with the intent of eliminating them with a mass nuclear strike if one of them is seen as a threat. If one of these systems encounters a suspect civilisation then expect them to check out the type of craft already sent into space, the airframe capabilities of atmosphere based craft and the nuclear power capabilities. To check on nuclear power capabilities then nuclear establishments could easily be spied on by hovering craft to pick up cathode ray tube transmissions to see what they have built in terms of nuclear devices. For atmospheric air-frame capabilities then they could use automated craft to "near miss" such atmospheric craft and record their evasion manoeuvres. Perhaps this has already been done. I have read about near misses with alien craft and also nuclear establishments calling up the air force to chase away spy craft.
Now that is an interesting idea! And that would be very scary because there's no living being you could reason with or negotiate with, only a machine with no feelings.
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Old 29.04.2010, 11:01
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

facepalm warning - going to yellow alert.
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Old 29.04.2010, 11:11
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Now that is an interesting idea! And that would be very scary because there's no living being you could reason with or negotiate with, only a machine with no feelings.
There is probably a safeguard against being eliminated by such an automated defence system. If the civilisation that evolved it still exists then they would be contacted before such an action is taken. If the defence system has lost contact with the originating civilisation then it would be looking for a key indicator of a threat. I would suggest that in both cases this could be a craft sent into space that is armed in any way. If the civilisation is still around then there is probably some way they could warn the evolving civilisation that if they ever did sent an armed craft into space - even as far as their own moon, then they would be eliminated. An automated system running on its own could probably not issue such a warning but could check for armaments on any space craft and take appropriate action.

I would guess from what I have read so far about the sort of encounters we have possibly had that such an automated system does exist and is monitoring the Earth and also that the originating civilisation has become involved and has already issued a clear warning to the governments of Earth that they must never venture into space with any armed craft. It seems to me that there has been a change of policy about sending men into space and this could be the result of such a dire warning.
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Re: Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

Roland, I see you have thought about this. (which is a worry in itself.)
It is possible that they do not consider us a threat as we only use nuclear power, and they separate quarks when they wish to destroy someone.

Tom.. maybe the Swiss know something that other nations dont remember - maybe the aliens only ever landed on Sundays, then.. when they see there is no action here, they go somewhere like England and take over everything.. one by one.. starting at tescos!
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