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Old 18.05.2010, 22:22
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

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Can the same be said for hip-hop? Has hip-hop helped bring communities together?
From Wikipedia, hip-hop is credited for doing a lot of good things in American Society.
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Old 18.05.2010, 22:25
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Reading your post, I realise that I have concentrated a little too much on modern popular music (and its related fashion and youth movements), and have ignored the power of patriotic and revolutionary music.

Does anyone have any other examples of these?

Conversely, perhaps Music does not change the world, rather the world (and it's events and evolution) changes our Music ? Music merely reflects the changes.
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Old 18.05.2010, 22:27
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

I'm a big fan of David Hasselhoff, you know that. Look here how he changed the lives of more than 1,000 people in Amazon and woke them up to real music:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000070S1
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Old 18.05.2010, 22:31
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I'm a big fan of David Hasselhoff, you know that. Look here how he changed the lives of more than 1,000 people in Amazon and woke them up to real music:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000070S1
Those reviews are scary... Even more scarier is that these people can vote in elections...
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Old 18.05.2010, 22:33
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

yes, there was a certain song that played and without this, mr. hitler wouldn't have danced with the mrs. hitler to be and would not have fathered young adolf. this song was thus responsible for subsequent major events in europe.

at least that's how it happens in my head.
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I'm a big fan of David Hasselhoff, you know that. Look here how he changed the lives of more than 1,000 people in Amazon and woke them up to real music:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000070S1
You're right. I should have given him more credit for his world-changing songs.

Hot Shot City is particularly good - I suspect it may have been responsible for the discovery of penicillin.

I apologise for my dismissive attitude towards him.
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Old 18.05.2010, 22:54
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

As a poet once wrote:

This world's in trouble, you know it's true,
But who has the answers to help us get through.
We look to our leaders, they politely yawn,
The press gives coverage,...
... and the world goes on.

This song won't stop the world from goin' round,
Cause a song can't stop the world from being unsound.
But it might change a heart, change a heart or two.
No, it can't stop the world, but it might stop you.

The radio's blastin', the music's loud.
A message is given to a face in the crowd.
By a prophet of music, a poet of song,
The truth is spoken,...
...and the world goes on.

A song can't stop the world from goin' round,
This song won't stop the world from being unsound.
But it might change a heart, change a heart or two.
No, it can't stop the world, but it might stop you.
No, it can't stop the world, but it might stop you.
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Old 18.05.2010, 23:06
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

What about the brown note? Music can change the contents of your pants...
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Old 18.05.2010, 23:24
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

I think most songs or styles rather have an individual impact on people, which results eventually in a lifestyle choice. From drumming to classical music over rock and electro, every music style seems to be connected to a certain human or inhuman behaviour meant to accomodate us in a negative or positive way.

To me music is one cultural aspect of a society but it certainly is no science. Popular music's sole purpose today is entertainment, relaxation, to dance or to develop aggressiveness, but there seems to be no greater meaning to it (did it ever?)

Most people would probably argue that music does bring peace to the soul, but it's just another way of expressing your opinion on problematic issues. It's basically a melodic way of fiction. However, it seems to never have changed the world on a greater scale as our natural attitude outside of the musical universe is entirely different. Music was just an addition to push a feeling or opinion already present to a point of action.

The only way for music to change the world would be for us to live music with all it's rhythm and singing/talking. Everything would have to be rhythmical and poetical, wouldn't it?
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Old 18.05.2010, 23:49
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

In order to have 'changed the world' I would expect the music to have influenced various cultures.

The top 100 selling albums of all time are pretty much from the Western World and were, I believe, originally released in English. On that basis, I don't think that any music has changed the world. It has certainly changed many peoples lives.
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Old 18.05.2010, 23:57
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In order to have 'changed the world' I would expect the music to have influenced various cultures.

The top 100 selling albums of all time are pretty much from the Western World and were, I believe, originally released in English. On that basis, I don't think that any music has changed the world. It has certainly changed many peoples lives.
I disagree. If you assume my example to be true (about how music brought races together), this had a knock on effect throughout the world.
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Old 19.05.2010, 00:09
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I disagree. If you assume my example to be true (about how music brought races together), this had a knock on effect throughout the world.
I guess I am just being pedantic. I agree that music has changed lives on a localised scale. I would call America localised in this sense. I cannot think of a situation, for example, where music from USA has impacted on the way of life to a similar degree across the world.
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Old 19.05.2010, 00:47
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I guess I am just being pedantic. I agree that music has changed lives on a localised scale. I would call America localised in this sense. I cannot think of a situation, for example, where music from USA has impacted on the way of life to a similar degree across the world.
So the opening up of the races being able to socialize and become more open had no impact on other countries...like the end of apartheid, for example? I think that the breakdown of many of the racial barriers in the US had a knock-on effect worldwide, culminating in such major happenings such as this.
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Old 19.05.2010, 00:50
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

Janice Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and all of the Woodstock bunch, created a psychedelic movement with their music that did change the world.

So yes.

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Old 19.05.2010, 01:26
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

My mate Dave claims that Kraftwerk, not content with only revolutionising electronic music, actually had a hand in changing the world by inadvertedly discovering a number of new ultra-high frequencies, which were later used in the refinement of canine hearing aids...

Seriously though, I think the answer lies within communication...notably Drums. Ever heard the phrase "I heard it on the jungle drums"..well there's no need for a telephone when you have a drum...surely world changing no? The only question is which came first, drums as a musical instrument or a mode of communication?

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Janice Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and all of the Woodstock bunch, created a psychedelic movement with their music that did change the world.

So yes.

Disagree. They were part of a movement, but they didn't create it. And it didn't change the world for the vast majority of people. Unless you view change the world in a small sense. In which case, everyone has changed the world, just by being born.
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Re: Has music ever changed the world?

Your list is flawed, the only Floyd song on the list is inter-ucking-stellar overdrive (do me a favour), place under milli-bleedin-vanilli. What`s that all about?
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Okay, seriously, according to some, yes.

100 Songs that changed the world
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If anyone has any non-anglo examples of world-changing music, btw, I'd love to hear about them...
I don't have much time before I run off to try to change the world of 38 people today, haha...

In my homeland, music was one of the few medias that used to code a lot of messages people weren't allowed to share in a normal way, for decades and centuries, in fact.

When one lives under oppression, music and art becomes a vehicle to express hope. Illegal tapes circulating, illlegal gigs, bands, groupies copying lyrics, etc..

We had anticommie bands, we had pro commie bands, we had anticommie bands that betrayed and gave names to secret police, there was so much politics involved.

If politics can change the world, so can music or any other media that is capable conveying any kind of message.

These gyus were in and out of jail, they still have a huge impact on people, kids of the fans carry on listening, the music that changed the world of generations is still pretty alive back there.

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During Velvet Revolution in 1989, there weren't many speeches and riots, but people got together and sang. The whole time people sang...We are, after all, a musical nation..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNnyOtHPz8&feature=fvsr
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I guess I am just being pedantic. I agree that music has changed lives on a localised scale. I would call America localised in this sense. I cannot think of a situation, for example, where music from USA has impacted on the way of life to a similar degree across the world.
Change in mentality of kids across the western world in the 90s following grunge

Change in the seer numbers of deaths in the US from drive by shootings - the MO of many late 90s gangstar rap groups

Helter skelter? helloooo

Everyones definition of 'change the world' is different. But technically, anything that actually influences something in the world has changed it
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Now music have a real effect.

Try to learn a foreign language listen to some punk-metal-of-the-death music
I'm not sure you will have the same result that if you listen to some Mozart music



Now music is sound and sound is vibration, energy.
I know some of you think it's bullshit (I'm so sad for you), but those things have an effect on us.
Dr. Emoto made a fantastic work about it.


And remember we are made of water !!!!

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