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Old 10.06.2010, 18:00
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Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

Was reading this today for entertainment. I am kind of from England but not English English and even though lot of racist worship the flag I don't think it is a racist symbol. That also in the context of supporting England world cup football team.

What say you?

P.S- From a design point of view I prefer the British flag though.

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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

Of course not. It's popular with racists, but that doesn't make it a racist symbol.

I didn't bother clicking through to your Daily Mail link . . . wouldn't credit them with the page hits.

By the 'British' flag, you mean the Union Flag?
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Old 10.06.2010, 18:04
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

Its the same as the southern cross in Australia. Most bogans have one on their car and have it tattoo'd on their back like its a symbol of how other cultures and races can f**** off. Its awful and devalues an icon of the nation. But I can imagine that pretty much most countries in the world would have a similar problem with using a nations symbol in a context that it wasn't designed for
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Old 10.06.2010, 18:05
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

It's a lovely flag.
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Old 10.06.2010, 18:06
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

It is racist towards dragons.
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Old 10.06.2010, 18:11
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

David Cameron doesn't seem to think so http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/politics/10276037.stm
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

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It is racist towards dragons.
Same with the Union Flag too, seeing as it doesn't incorporate the Welsh flag.
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Old 10.06.2010, 18:16
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

sadly under british workplace law , i believe, ANYTHING is racist if a person percieves it to be, lodges a complaint stating why they are offended and states what should be done about it.

on the other hand , the flag is not racist, it is the intention with which it is used.
just as well really , i like all flags ....some are pretty , some quite clever designs and others just look good draped over a super yacht or two.

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Old 10.06.2010, 18:18
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

Step too far, although reading the article, the ban was first put into place because someone complained about an Irish flag being displayed back in 2003. Wonder what sort of character complained about that?
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Old 11.06.2010, 10:09
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

Yes.
I always get offended when I see the English flag.
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Old 11.06.2010, 10:28
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

Seing the English flag always reminds me of home as it is essentially the same as the coat of arms of the archbishop of Trier.



Wikipedia reference-linkArchbishopric_of_Trier

I personally find people showing their support one of the cool things of football tournaments. I just gave a colleague a compliment on how good the Mexiacan kits look this year. And yes, I will for sure wear mine in the office as well.
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

Yawn..NO....NO...NOoooooooo
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

I think you slightly mis-represented the article. It doesn't seem to be suggesting that flying the St George is racist, it instead states that a certain group of government workers have been told not to put one on cars they use for work because it might upset people who do not support the England team. This seems pretty ludicrous to me, but the thing that I'm bothered by is that the title of this thread completely mis-represents the news story that it is based on.
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Old 11.06.2010, 10:34
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

It doesn't go far enough IMO. Government workers should not be allowed flags, toilet breaks or hot meals. As for the rest of us, no I think the SGC is a symbol of a proper nation - better than the UF: I from London don't have any stronger ties to someone from Belfast than I do to someone from Dublin.
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

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I think you slightly mis-represented the article. It doesn't seem to be suggesting that flying the St George is racist, it instead states that a certain group of government workers have been told not to put one on their car because it might upset people who do not support the England team. This seems pretty ludicrous to me, but the thing that I'm bothered by is that the title of this thread completely mis-represents the news story that it is based on.
I think the daily mail completely misrepresents the story too, they keep saying the St. Georges flag is banned, as if to imply the plucky Brits can't show their national pride for fear of offending the minorities.

Actually, all flags were banned. The reason? Some Alf Garnet chap got offended that paddy was driving around with an Irish flag.
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

What twoddle, the Daily Mails best function was wrapping fish and chips and wiping your arse if taken short on a picnic... then the ink was found to cause bum cancer so even that use is redundant.

I'm English and will poudly be wearing my official England shirt complete with the C o SG for the world cup. The problem is more my Scots wife who when getting a sniff of the saltire gets active with her claymore and shouts 'Freeeeedoooom' a lot... but not at this world cup
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Old 11.06.2010, 10:56
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

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I think you slightly mis-represented the article. It doesn't seem to be suggesting that flying the St George is racist, it instead states that a certain group of government workers have been told not to put one on cars they use for work because it might upset people who do not support the England team. This seems pretty ludicrous to me, but the thing that I'm bothered by is that the title of this thread completely mis-represents the news story that it is based on.
If was just meant to be a discussion starter as it reminded me of previous news items where displaying of English flag was deemed racist by some. My apology for making Daily mail look bad or fooling you and in any way
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

How can the traditional flag of a country with a history reaching back hundreds of years be racist?
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Re: Is the St George's flag a racist symbol?

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How can the traditional flag of a country with a history reaching back hundreds of years be racist?
How can any flag be racist. They're all just pieces of fabric, I don't think they have views either way. Everything is what we make them and sadly a lot of BNP types have made the SGC their own.

Having said that I don't care and if I wanted to, I'd still fly it.
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Yes.
I always get offended when I see the English flag.
Get used to it. If we don't get our money back we're going to repossess that rock you charmingly call home. You'll be seeing a lot more of the cross after that
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