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Old 13.12.2010, 18:33
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I have lived here 21 years and never heard of such nonsense.

However you can see that the communual charges would have to be recalculated for the period of this longish visit.

And taking it to an extreme conclusion, any visit would need to be announced beforehand and the number of toilet flushes would have to be agreed upon!

There is a rule that social security will recognise a group of people need an extra communual room. A family of 4 would be entitled to 3 bedrooms plus a lounge. If they had 5 rooms it would be a luxury. A married couple would be entitled to 2 rooms, 1 bedroom + 1 living room.
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Old 13.12.2010, 18:36
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The fact your parents stayed more than 2 weeks, which is unusual for visitors, caused the problem. Stupid neighbour though! I could understand if you had young friends staying over making an awful lot of noise. Learn from it, and next time just tell your landlord.
Not if they've come from afar, flying for more than 10 hours just to see you and the sights - in that case, 2-3 weeks is about right. And I wouldnt just generalise noise is usually caused just by young people.

The older generation visiting makes just as much as noise ie turning their telly volume up due to being hard of hearing etc..
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Old 13.12.2010, 18:38
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A friend of ours always used to ask his MIL to show him her return ticket with agreed date when he picked her up from the airport at Christmas.
I shall be the MIL next week - but will make sure I don't overstay my welcome.
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Old 13.12.2010, 18:45
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A friend of ours always used to ask his MIL to show him her return ticket with agreed date when he picked her up from the airport at Christmas.
Brilliant! *files idea away*
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Old 13.12.2010, 19:20
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Re: Rules regarding guests

As long as you don't get a letter with art. so-and-so he can't do anything.

We had every year some relatives in our flat. My aunty lived once for 8 weeks with us. No problem.
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Old 13.12.2010, 21:57
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Re: Rules regarding guests

As summerain says, if they can't produce something in the contract... I would NOT be polite about telling them where to go. You are paying the rent and can tell them to piss off. I rent from a large agency (5 years), and have repeatedly told them to back off with their big brother tactics.

Of course, your decision as to how you want to approach them. But really, I think some of these firms just push because most people don't push back... especially the foreigners.

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I've never heard of such a bizzare rule and I am putting it down to pettiness.

There is an official rule in my gemeinde where 2.5 zimmer apartments are only allowed one registered occupant but my neighbour downstairs lives with his gf full time (her name just isnt on the mailbox and door). No one has said a thing because it doesnt bother anyone.

Relatives visiting arent exactly the same. I mean, they will go off after a while - unless you and the family were making a racket, and sparked complaints. Personally, I would just give the agency a call - act surprised and ask innocently whereabouts in the contract / gemeinde rules that specifically states that - under the guise of "so that everyone's on the same page and you will avoid that in future." If they cant produce anything, you can politely tell them to eff-off, and that whatever happens under your roof is really none of anyone's business if you've been quiet and considerate.
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I rent from a large agency (5 years), and have repeatedly told them to back off with their big brother tactics.


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The big brother tactics are usually used by the agencies if your rent is low. It's to bother you all the time so that you leave and they can raise the rent to 'Marktmiete'.
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I'm pretty sure our rental contracts have had clauses in regarding long term guests, we have to notify the owner.

At the risk of getting groaned at, I notice the op is indian, and they do have a repuatation for moving in family members on the sly, not so easy here of course but the swiss love stereotypes.
My parents recently visited and stayed with us for 3 months and we had no problems. I didn't even informed the company about this long stay. Although I come from Pakistan so not far away from being considered as indian
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Re: Rules regarding guests

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I spoke with the Mietverband and they told me there is no way the Agency can tell me who can stay in my house for how long.They have no such rights. So, next time I am gonna tell them..FO...

Nice weekend people..
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So, next time I am gonna tell them..FO...

Nice weekend people..
That endear you to them no end. I hope your dishwasher doesn't breakdown, may take a while to repair.
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That endear you to them no end. I hope your dishwasher doesn't breakdown, may take a while to repair.

Do rental agencies provide wives too, now?
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Re: Rules regarding guests

OP: Send a note to your agency informing them that you will notify them the next time you are on holiday and the apartment is not occupied, and you will expect a refund of that month's rent proportional to the time you were gone. This street goes both ways.
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OP: Send a note to your agency informing them that you will notify them the next time you are on holiday and the apartment is not occupied, and you will expect a refund of that month's rent proportional to the time you were gone. This street goes both ways.
Providing of course you clear out all your stuff, and leave the flat clean each month
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Old 22.01.2011, 08:55
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I tried marrying a dishwasher. Didn't work. So I tried breeding them. Also didn't work.

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Re: Rules regarding guests

it's already 3 weeks since i live together with my husband in his studio apartment. And we didn't tell the agency. Currently we are searching for a 2 room apartment, and we have found one which is from the same agency. The problems is what to write in the application letter? Is it ok to write my husband address as my current address in the aplication letter? If i did that, the agency will know that i've been living in my husband studio. But if i write my old address (in germany) and they found out that i've been living here, wouldnt they be mad at me? I already registered with this address and already got my b permit
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Old 28.01.2011, 09:09
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it's already 3 weeks since i live together with my husband in his studio apartment. And we didn't tell the agency. Currently we are searching for a 2 room apartment, and we have found one which is from the same agency. The problems is what to write in the application letter? Is it ok to write my husband address as my current address in the aplication letter? If i did that, the agency will know that i've been living in my husband studio. But if i write my old address (in germany) and they found out that i've been living here, wouldnt they be mad at me? I already registered with this address and already got my b permit
Firstly, life happens, people get married and move in together - if you have an agency that can't accept this, then you shouldn't rent with them again

Secondly, you have found a flat held by the agency. My experience - assuming that it is a more expensive property - is that the agency will be very happy as they will be getting more rent from you.

I wouldn't overcomplicate it. Just use the address you are in.
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Old 28.01.2011, 09:18
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So a married couple must always have a spare bedroom? How bizarre.
A 2.5 only has one bedroom.

Regarding communal costs, ours does not depend on occupancy, but the size of the appartment, i.e. (m2 of appartment)/(total m2 of all appartments), so one person living in a 4.5 (which my girlfriend used to do) pays more than a couple in a 2.5!

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Old 28.01.2011, 11:38
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A 2.5 only has one bedroom.
Yup. And Summerrain wrote that only one person can live there.
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Old 28.01.2011, 11:45
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Yup. And Summerrain wrote that only one person can live there.
According to another EFer, due to my bad German, its only relevant to housing belonging to the gemeinde. So my apologies for misleading anyone. Still doesnt explain why my neighbour only has his name on his door and his gf is living there full time. Whatever.... life's too short for me to contemplate on such things.

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Firstly, life happens, people get married and move in together - if you have an agency that can't accept this, then you shouldn't rent with them again

Secondly, you have found a flat held by the agency. My experience - assuming that it is a more expensive property - is that the agency will be very happy as they will be getting more rent from you.

I wouldn't overcomplicate it. Just use the address you are in.
Erm actually, its best to check the contract of the studio flat. A friend of mine has one in the Niederdorf and it stated specifically in her contract that its for ONE occupant. Might not be the case for all studio flats, but best check to be sure.
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Old 28.01.2011, 11:58
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Still doesnt explain why my neighbour only has his name on his door and his gf is living there full time.
My girlfriend's name isn't on the door or mailbox, but she has officially been living there for two years (i.e. registered with the commune).

I've just been too lazy to change the plaques!

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