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Re: Appliances - what to bring from US

That's why I didn't bring mine- I got the same advice. It's taken me three years to replace what I left behind and I feel a right fool for having listened: appliances are tremendously more expensive here. My f-i-l also bought a 7 euro plug adapter for the American Japanese camera we got him last year (1/3 cost of when available four months later here in Germany)- and I believe CH is far more expensive than here? My plug adapters serve me well in France, UK and Germany. But everyone makes their own choices based on their own situations: for my family, we would have been far better off bringing many items over because I love to (eg) cook, have masses of photo stuff and computer stuff (which I did bring), etc.
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@Hnicgm - good thing you do have a relocation allowance. I thought mine was very generous, but I ended up using most of it for apartment deposit and car down payment. Talk about sticker shock!
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I bought a kitchen aid mixer, food processor and a crock pot wired for 220 to be used in Europe in the us, all at somewhat less than standard Swiss prices. If you google 220 volt appliances you can find several providers. I had them shipped to our house in the US and packed with our stuff. This is one option if you really want a particular item.

Just note that if you ship stuff that looks brand new, you might end up paying tax and duty. However, a few boxes in your shipment are often unnoticed.
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Noone has mentioned the posters electric blankets. Does anyone use them in Switzerland? I know that all the houses I have been in seem to have such good heating systems that an electric blanket is totally unneeded.
I have seen a mattress cover that is electric. Personally I wouldn't use any electric item as bedding. You can buy duvets here in many weights and sizes, and if you really want to get into a warm bed, you can use a hot water bottle. Speaking of bedding, North American size mattresses and bedding are not the same as Switzerland. If you are shipping mattresses, bring bedding, particularly fitted sheets. There is a pillow case here sold in 50 x 70 cm that will fit a North American pillow, but then again it is easier if you are bringing pillows to bring cases. When it comes to bedding I usually tell my clients to use the all or nothing rule. In other words, if you are bringing mattresses, duvets and pillows, bring all the sheets. Sorry to digress but I thought the bedding issue was worth covering.

When we first moved here we had a mixture of bedding from the UK, Switzerland, Canada and Germany. Nothing was the same size and it was mind boggling.
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For what it's worth, we bought 3 transformers and am very happy that we did. Considering that we shiped a whole container it was worth it in the end for me to just ship it all together. I have many small appliances that I still continue to enjoy such as my food processor, Classic Gaglia Espresso machine and hot wax machine including an electric tooth brush just to mention a few. I also brought a few very expensive lamps that I would never be able to find here and simply had the electrician change the wiring for us. Our move here is permanent so for us it was worth it, if you are just coming for just a couple of years as an expat you should probably do as others have suggested and leave it behind looking for alternative options while you are here.
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Re: Appliances - what to bring from US

When I moved to Europe, I decided I did not want transformers all over my house. So, I only brought my favorite kitchen appliances (KitchenAid stand mixer, food processor, and a coffee pot!) and a transformer with enough current to run heavy draw appliances. Otherwise, I bought new appliances.

Make sure the transformer has enough watts to run your appliance. Otherwise, you will be buying new appliances anyway!

Lamps will work with European Light bulbs and an adapter for the plug.

Christmas lights will not work, leave them at home.

For the last five years, we have not had a home, wall style, telephone. We have only had cell phones and used our computers (SKYPE) to call home.

DVD players are region specific. If you are only using U.S. bought DVDs, this should not be a problem for you.

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With our recent move from California we only took mobile appliances such as laptops, external monitor, external hard drives, digital cameras etc. with us. That stuff is easy (check the wall brick) to plug in here. With many of those items I changed the end cable from the brick to the wall socket. Interdiscount here and other stores like them have those cables; that way you can avoid the flimsy wall plug adapters. I almost brought our HP printer until I read about the localization of the cartridges HP apparently does and I figured it's not worth the hassle. Standard printers here are not really more expensive than in the US. I found out that getting for example a sofa is something that might take more than a trip to the store with a van. Often you have to order such items and until you receive it it might take weeks. Keep that in mind when moving your household.

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First let me apologize for bringing this up again. I have seem some threads on this topic recommending NOT to bring (kitchen) appliances from the US to Switzerland.

I have not seen any advice on the following though and was wondering if I could get opinions/suggestions:

- Television (newer model)
- lamps
- printer
- chargers (camera, cell phone, etc)
- telephone
- electric blankets
- coffee maker/kettle/toaster
- shaver/hair dryer
- electric toothbrush

Thanks everyone, in advance. And again, sorry if this is re-hashed!
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Thanks Everyone for the suggestions / advice.

Cost of shipping is not prohibitive (thank goodness). I have looked at some 220/240 to 110 converters on Amazon, which seem relatively cheap. Good for running things on low voltage (e.g., toothbrush, razor, coffee maker). I think that will be an option for some things. Also have looked at simple plug adapters, which I have used in the past without converters - maybe good for lamps??

I'm a little bummed about the TV, etc. I think the option of storage for some of these items is the best bet. Fortunately I do get an allowance to purchase appliances and the like.

It just seems like so much to replace - everything gets plugged in these days!

Again, thanks for the advice....Please keep it coming!
Volts are one thing but Wattage is another. That's why cannot use my laminating machine and coffee machine here...unless of course i buy a huge transformator for each.
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I almost brought our HP printer until I read about the localization of the cartridges HP apparently does and I figured it's not worth the hassle. Standard printers here are not really more expensive than in the US. .

With the assistance of HP customer service I was able to reconfigure my HP C7280 printer to accept the regional cartridges with little effort so it's not a complete write off and only needed to have a plug adaptor.
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Re: Appliances - what to bring from US

I just made my German DVD player region free- don't waste time with one that is not hackable to that status, because you will have DVDs from many countries floating around your house. Many standard (cheap) good brands (esp Philps) are hackable, so don't buy a special one.
Our transformer was behind a TV and one on the kitchen counter and by the time my kids could climb on the counter and consider shoving a spoon in there, they were too old. But also, you can tape up the slots you don't use (as we did after the husband, in a morning stupor, burned out a coffee pot using the wrong socket). Because doing that is far more likely, imho. And German holes are very different anyway- you'd need to make a quite an effort to electrocute yourself.
And we thought we were coming for two years, but at 4 and considering permanency, it is worth it (if you have a container) to bring what you like.
Also, rugs- very expensive here and very bad quality (unless you buy Persian, etc). If you have kids, bring the great character rugs, for yourself, think about bringing your own rugs or rugs you like: even Ikea is not terribly cheap and they are terrible quality and choice (say I looking at my Ikea rugs). Home Depot has a shockingly good assortment at prices you will soon consider glass bead variety.
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i truly think that furniture is truly what you want to bring over. I wish I took all I had. Selection and pricing as well as quality is truly disgusting here.
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At the end of the day it really comes down to this:

1. How long are you staying? Short term, long term or open ended?
2. Is someone paying for the shipment of a container?
3. If you do not ship a container can you negotiate a cash payment instead? (be careful of payments that are taxable)
4. Do you have the possibility to store items in the US?

I was looking at the Interdiscount flyer this morning...prices on decent appliances can be really reasonable, some seemed even less than appliances at Hettler in Germany, for example. Unless you are really attached to your appliances, is it really worth the hassle of shipping them?

I had a Kitchen Aid stand mixer once upon a time. Since then having moved often I have owned several others, all more than adequate.
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We will be moving in July of 2011. Wanted to add my two cents. We are planning on buying 2 1000 watts transformers from amazon. This will help run our kitchen aid mixer, cuisinart toaster and blender. With the other transformer w plan on running our tv, DVD player and Wii system. We have a plasma display it is 120 v but can display pal, NTSC, mescam. If you do decide to get a transformer get the lite transformers with CE approval. They cost a little more on amazon but truly worth the effort.
With regards to furniture we plan on getting new head board footboard for our beds, entertainment rack from the USA. We have a temperpeudic king size which we shall ship over with all the necessary sheets. Have mad a note on colorox bleach, spices, brown sugar.
We looked into storing our stuff in Chicago. But came to the conclusion what we will put in storage now, we might not want to use it 5 years from now. And who knows after 5 years you might choose to live in Switzerland or pursue the great opportunity in Singapore. We will end selling a lot of stuff on Craigs list. Think about the move as a cleansing process. Get rid of the stuff you don't use or need.



Still deciding what do our Benz Gl 450. It is chf150000 fully loaded in Switzerland. I got for half the price here.
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Be careful on what you purchase (i.e., furniture) before the move. You are supposed to declare anything owned less than six months.

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We will be moving in July of 2011. Wanted to add my two cents. We are planning on buying 2 1000 watts transformers from amazon. This will help run our kitchen aid mixer, cuisinart toaster and blender. With the other transformer w plan on running our tv, DVD player and Wii system. We have a plasma display it is 120 v but can display pal, NTSC, mescam. If you do decide to get a transformer get the lite transformers with CE approval. They cost a little more on amazon but truly worth the effort.
With regards to furniture we plan on getting new head board footboard for our beds, entertainment rack from the USA. We have a temperpeudic king size which we shall ship over with all the necessary sheets. Have mad a note on colorox bleach, spices, brown sugar.
We looked into storing our stuff in Chicago. But came to the conclusion what we will put in storage now, we might not want to use it 5 years from now. And who knows after 5 years you might choose to live in Switzerland or pursue the great opportunity in Singapore. We will end selling a lot of stuff on Craigs list. Think about the move as a cleansing process. Get rid of the stuff you don't use or need.



Still deciding what do our Benz Gl 450. It is chf150000 fully loaded in Switzerland. I got for half the price here.
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I was thinking about asking this question this morning, but do people bring over their stuff from the UK or not?

We have very little of value and so on the one hand, the cost of replacing them is going to be very high, but on the other, the cost of transporting them is going to be much higher than the worth of our possessions.

We're renting here, so no appliances, just TV, PC, 2 beds, dining room and lounge furniture.
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We will be moving in July of 2011. Wanted to add my two cents. We are planning on buying 2 1000 watts transformers from amazon. This will help run our kitchen aid mixer, cuisinart toaster and blender. With the other transformer w plan on running our tv, DVD player and Wii system. We have a plasma display it is 120 v but can display pal, NTSC, mescam. If you do decide to get a transformer get the lite transformers with CE approval. They cost a little more on amazon but truly worth the effort.
With regards to furniture we plan on getting new head board footboard for our beds, entertainment rack from the USA. We have a temperpeudic king size which we shall ship over with all the necessary sheets. Have mad a note on colorox bleach, spices, brown sugar.
We looked into storing our stuff in Chicago. But came to the conclusion what we will put in storage now, we might not want to use it 5 years from now. And who knows after 5 years you might choose to live in Switzerland or pursue the great opportunity in Singapore. We will end selling a lot of stuff on Craigs list. Think about the move as a cleansing process. Get rid of the stuff you don't use or need.



Still deciding what do our Benz Gl 450. It is chf150000 fully loaded in Switzerland. I got for half the price here.
forget the GL unless you want to have problems parking it and feeling waay too large for Europe and especially CH. Tree huggers will hate you and filling up this Yank-mobile will cost you a furtune...
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With regards to furniture we plan on getting new head board footboard for our beds, entertainment rack from the USA. We have a temperpeudic king size which we shall ship over with all the necessary sheets. Have mad a note on colorox bleach, spices, brown sugar.
I don't know what you mean you are getting a new head board foot board, but you need to bring the whole bed with you, not just the two pieces.

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forget the GL unless you want to have problems parking it and feeling waay too large for Europe and especially CH. Tree huggers will hate you and filling up this Yank-mobile will cost you a furtune...
Not just the tree huggers. Everyone will hate you. It's just too big to be practical in Europe. Never mind the fact that it won't take you long before even you to start hate yourself for having a 4.6ltr engine.
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I don't know what you mean you are getting a new head board foot board, but you need to bring the whole bed with you, not just the two pieces.



Not just the tree huggers. Everyone will hate you. It's just too big to be practical in Europe. Never mind the fact that it won't take you long before even you to start hate yourself for having a 4.6ltr engin
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Re: Appliances - what to bring from US

Didn't mention beds, but the beds in Germany are absolutely horrible and the ones that we brought over from the US are immeasurably superior. I know several Germans that have bought Heavenly Beds (TM) from Westin, but they are ridiculously expensive compared to tossing a mattress and boxspring in a a container. Don't forget to bring the frame (we did for one bed) because you can't get them here. Not certain what mattresses are like in CH, but I assume similar to DE and therefore inferior to those I have slept on in FR and UK?
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Regarding transformers, don't forget that anything with an AC motor will only have 70% of it's normal power!

We really noticed this when a friend got a hot-tub in the US, and brought it here.

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