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Re: Appliances - what to bring from US

Cleaning out is good. Also consider that your kitchen cupboards might be quite smaller than what you are used to (you will need to store your 5 Kg of brown sugar somewhere ;-). That Merc might be good for the weekend drives if you have a large family or visitors. Otherwise rather unpractical here.

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We will be moving in July of 2011. Wanted to add my two cents. We are planning on buying 2 1000 watts transformers from amazon. This will help run our kitchen aid mixer, cuisinart toaster and blender. With the other transformer w plan on running our tv, DVD player and Wii system. We have a plasma display it is 120 v but can display pal, NTSC, mescam. If you do decide to get a transformer get the lite transformers with CE approval. They cost a little more on amazon but truly worth the effort.
With regards to furniture we plan on getting new head board footboard for our beds, entertainment rack from the USA. We have a temperpeudic king size which we shall ship over with all the necessary sheets. Have mad a note on colorox bleach, spices, brown sugar.
We looked into storing our stuff in Chicago. But came to the conclusion what we will put in storage now, we might not want to use it 5 years from now. And who knows after 5 years you might choose to live in Switzerland or pursue the great opportunity in Singapore. We will end selling a lot of stuff on Craigs list. Think about the move as a cleansing process. Get rid of the stuff you don't use or need.



Still deciding what do our Benz Gl 450. It is chf150000 fully loaded in Switzerland. I got for half the price here.
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I am looking at renting a 5.5 room apartment with storage rental. The 20 pounds of sugar, 100 pound of rice, clorox bleach tubs, big boxes of salad dressing, Buffalo wing sauce, :-), bourbon, scotch, rum, cigar humidor, and other stuff will go in the storage area and the extra room. oh I forgot to mention I am looking forward to making new friends in switzerland. :-))
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Be careful on what you purchase (i.e., furniture) before the move. You are supposed to declare anything owned less than six months.
Will be buying my furniture in Jan 2011. Moving in July 2011. Guess I won't have to declare stuff that is over 6 months old.
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I am looking at renting a 5.5 room apartment with storage rental. The 20 pounds of sugar, 100 pound of rice, clorox bleach tubs, big boxes of salad dressing, Buffalo wing sauce, :-), bourbon, scotch, rum, cigar humidor, and other stuff will go in the storage area and the extra room. oh I forgot to mention I am looking forward to making new friends in switzerland. :-))
You can get lots of white sugar, rice and clorox bleach (called Javel here) so I suggest you save your shipping/storage space for other items that are hard to find.
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Re: Appliances - what to bring from US

bought two 150w, and one 1000w step-down transformers. I use them to run either
a) kitchenaid mixer
b) cusinart food processor (only thing that needs about 700w)
c) wife's sewing machine
d) various other small electrics I did want to buy new
Other than that, most electronic items these days have their own transformers in them or their adapters do. I did buy a PAL-to-NTSC converter for my flat screen TV because I did the research and realized that at the time it would be a fair bit cheaper to buy a converter rather than a sell a nearly new TV and buy another one.
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bought two 150w, and one 1000w step-down transformers. I use them to run either
a) kitchenaid mixer
b) cusinart food processor (only thing that needs about 700w)
c) wife's sewing machine
d) various other small electrics I did want to buy new
Other than that, most electronic items these days have their own transformers in them or their adapters do. I did buy a PAL-to-NTSC converter for my flat screen TV because I did the research and realized that at the time it would be a fair bit cheaper to buy a converter rather than a sell a nearly new TV and buy another one.
PAL to NTSC...interesting.
But how do you power your TV? Does a simple converter/surge protector work? I too would like to keep my fairly new TV.
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Old 04.01.2011, 13:18
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I am looking at renting a 5.5 room apartment with storage rental. The 20 pounds of sugar, 100 pound of rice, clorox bleach tubs, big boxes of salad dressing, Buffalo wing sauce, :-), bourbon, scotch, rum, cigar humidor, and other stuff will go in the storage area and the extra room. oh I forgot to mention I am looking forward to making new friends in switzerland. :-))
See this thread with regard to bleach.

Swiss lakes and rivers are beautifully clean already. They don't need bleaching.

Perhaps you may consider leaving your strong bleach back in the U.S?
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Re: Appliances - what to bring from US

Flour, sugar, tubs of Clorox????? you are not quite landing in a war country, why on earth would you move with THAT? I could understand a box containing your favorite cereals.. good peanut butter jars... hot sauces and bbq sauce... nothing more than that.

Appliance-wise, I found that most work perfectly well with a transformer; make sure you check on each appliance the wattage required, and match it with the planned transformer. The appliances most energy-hungry are usually the ones producing heat (aka, iron, hair dryer, kettle, baking oven...). If you plan to use one transformer with multiple appliances at the same time, you need to add the wattage.

Also, I found that not all transformers are created equal. I prefer step-up-down ones, as they will also work on the way back, using appliaces bought over here back in the US. Check that they are grounded, especially for large ones.
Also, remember that transformers BUZZ. yup. they make a white little buzzing noise that can be quite annoying; the bigger the transfo, the lounder; but also the cheaper, the louder... I would suggest doing a bit of shopping before investing.
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PAL to NTSC...interesting.
But how do you power your TV? Does a simple converter/surge protector work? I too would like to keep my fairly new TV.
Oddly, most electronics already have transformers in them to convert voltages so I just need a plug adapter for both my TV and my converter.
Just look at your TV and it should say what voltage ranges are acceptable for it. If it's new, I'd say there's an extremely high chance you're ok. I don't think simple surge protectors are multi-voltage. I don't even bother with that.
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Flour, sugar, tubs of Clorox?????
You say that, but you'd envy my 5kg sack of baking soda from Costco.
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PAL to NTSC...interesting.
But how do you power your TV? Does a simple converter/surge protector work? I too would like to keep my fairly new TV.
Only you can figure this out*. If your TV really new it is possible you can bring it. Some new TV are more like computer monitors. But again, you need to look up the specs.


(*Well, unless you tell us what TV you have, exactly make & model, etc)
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Never mind the fact that it won't take you long before even you to start hate yourself for having a 4.6ltr engine.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with driving a car with a big engine as long as you can afford the gas which is quite a bit more expensive here than in the US.

Parking may be an issue however. Parking spaces are considerably smaller than in the US, so parking that GL will become more difficult. Whether this is a problem or not depends a lot on the OP's usage pattern. (and parking skills )

One important thing to consider is parking at home. Some apartment buildings' parking garages have quite small spaces.
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One important thing to consider is parking at home. Some apartment buildings' parking garages have quite small spaces.
oh and lots of big, sturdy, concrete poles.

But at least you are used to driving on the right side of the road.

We moved from Australia and brought our beer fridge with us - of course. Damn packers didn't pack it right and after the 2 month journey it was stuffed when it was unpacked. To put salt on the wound the insurance company didn't want to replace it because what I said it was worth in Australia was no where near the replacement cost here. Arguments between companies ensued and we have our new beer fridge.
So the lesson is, when estimating the value of your TV or other precious items be sure to quote the 'Swiss' value of the item rather that your local price.
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Re: Appliances - what to bring from US

If you are moving with a family then I'd suggest you bring what you can over with you, but if its just you and you have not secured accomodation then I suggest you sell what you have and buy it again here. ( (Realise it's not the best for the envoinment) ( except bring the cell phone/phone charger)

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- Television (newer model)
- lamps
- printer
- chargers (camera, cell phone, etc)
- telephone
- electric blankets
- coffee maker/kettle/toaster
- shaver/hair dryer
- electric toothbrush

Thanks everyone, in advance. And again, sorry if this is re-hashed![/QUOTE]
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You say that, but you'd envy my 5kg sack of baking soda from Costco.
I bring my own baking soda, thank you very much.

Car-wise, I moved here with a 8V Ford explorer, and loved it. Yes, the gas sticker was steep, but it was great... nevr had a problem with parking, but true enough it is easier to park outside than in parking houses ...

Now I replaced it with a Diesel Land Rover - I slashed gas costs by 2/3...
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Oddly, most electronics already have transformers in them to convert voltages so I just need a plug adapter for both my TV and my converter.
Just look at your TV and it should say what voltage ranges are acceptable for it. If it's new, I'd say there's an extremely high chance you're ok. I don't think simple surge protectors are multi-voltage. I don't even bother with that.
One other thing we discovered before moving here, many new digital TV's also auto adjust for either PAL or NTSC. This way, they can sell the same TV in multiple markets without having special versions for each. Sadly, ours didn't but it's worth checking yours to see if it does this.
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- vacuum cleaner
Not sure why anyone would want to stick with a US vacuum cleaner when the ones in Suisse are far superior, IMO

Even without an offer, Electrolux is economically priced
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I am looking at renting a 5.5 room apartment with storage rental. The 20 pounds of sugar, 100 pound of rice, clorox bleach tubs, big boxes of salad dressing, Buffalo wing sauce, :-), bourbon, scotch, rum, cigar humidor, and other stuff will go in the storage area and the extra room. oh I forgot to mention I am looking forward to making new friends in switzerland. :-))
Why on earth would you bring rice? There is plenty of it in Switzerland and the price of rice is negligible to the meat and vegetable you'll eat with the rice.
http://www.coopathome.ch/b2c_coop/ca...0000000A0301CE

If you have enough space in the container, concentrate on high value items with a huge difference between the US and here (e.g. clothing) or things you can't get here (e.g. chocolate chips)
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With regards to furniture we plan on getting new head board footboard for our beds, entertainment rack from the USA. [...] We have a temperpeudic king size which we shall ship over with all the necessary sheets.
Sounds like you mean you want to by your foot and head boards in Switzerland, right? Guess you'll have to forget that. There are no standardized beds in continental Europe, comparable to the four sizes and five softness degrees of box-springs and matresses in the USA, with practically the same rack underneath, to which you just add head and foot boards of your choice to match your bedroom furniture.

Here most matresses have standardized sizes too. There are practically no box-springs on the market, though. Slatted bedframes are used instead, supported by an outer frame that contains everything including head and foot boards. You may choose your matress, you may choose the slatted frame, but the rest is one unit with nothing to change or add.

By the way, the lack of box-springs has two consequences: 1) The beds do not sag in the middle like hammocks, hence the far, far lower number of chiropractors in Europe. 2) The beds are much lower. Europeans have to get up in the morning; they do not just roll out. My American Other Half needs her chiropractor every three weeks when in the USA. Here in Switzerland she can spend three months without an adjustment.
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Re: Appliances - what to bring from US

Sorry for another question but I'm not clear on the TV piece. I have 2 brand new LED TVs that I will bring from the US (I guess they will cost me around CHF 5K there). Do you recommend me to bring them? Transportation is not an issue. Will they work with CH cable / dish?
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