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Old 11.01.2011, 13:42
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Renting with an L Permit

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere - searching for "L Permit" throws up an awful lot of hits, but I didn't see anything that relates to my question.

We're in temporary accommodation until the end of the month, so we're starting to get a little panicky about having a roof over our heads come 1 February. I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll get the one of the places we've already applied for, but we're carrying on looking in the meantime.

I've noticed a few raised eyebrows when we mention we have L permits (12-month, on a permanent employment contract), and I'm worried it's hurting our chances of being accepted as tenants.

Does anyone have experience of this? Have you struggled because you don't have a B permit? Or did you find it incredibly easy and think I'm being ridiculous for worrying?

Wise words, anecdotes, links to threads I should have found but didn't, spleen-venting rants and "renting is hard in Zurich but you'll find somewhere" pep talks all welcome. Thanks in advance!
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Old 11.01.2011, 13:50
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

I have to admit that its a little harder but not impossible. We were in that exact same situation when we first arrived - 2 years on the L and now on B.

Be proactive in getting a letter of recommendation from your current employer - saying that you have a permanent position with them (how great you are blah blahblah), a letter from a previous landlord (even though its not the same country) and attach your permanent work contract to the application form - together with your betreibung.

For those flats that you really like, be as quick as you can in submitting your application - do it in person or fax if necessary. Give the housing agent in charge a call to say that you've sent through the documents are would really liked to be considered for the house. Whatever it takes to create a top-of-mind recall.

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Re: Renting with an L Permit

as most people turn up here with L permits its quite normal. are you looking out in the sticks or in town?

just apply for as many places as possible, don't pin all your hopes on just one place and wait, and wait, and wait then not get it.
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

Definitely get your employer to help! A swiss company backing an expat is a huge help as we found. We had two places offered to us before we even arrived in the country! This was all because someone at my employer contacted the rental agent directly to tell them I had signed an indefinite contract and had to go on an L permit because the allotment had been used up for 2010.

Not sure if that is the same reason for you why you are on an L, but at the least hearing from them definitely made us look like great applicants.

Good luck!!
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

Well, you shouldn't worry if you plan to rent something which is above what "normal" Swiss people would rent .
Nobody have asked me about my permit type, which is also L, but my company helped me through a relocation company that took care of personal items transportation, renting of an appt. etc. In other words, it shouldn't be of your concern if
- don't look for cheap places or/and
- have the company you work for behind the whole ""process"
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

Don't worry, our permit is L permit and we got our apartment within 3-week search. Just diligently apply for as many apartments as possible, attaching all supporting documents (such as reference letter from your company and betreibung). All the best!
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

I have an L permit that until recently was set to expire in March 2011. Ahtough it has now been renewed, at the time that I signed the lease for my new apartment in December, the renewal was still in progress. I basically downplayed the permit and instead produced two letters of reference from my current employers, in addition to producing paystubs, my CV, and anything else that I could think would help. I had the advantage of having lived in termporary accomodation for a year, so produced the current landord as a reference as well, which also helped.

Additionally, I wasn't able to attend the open house scheduled for what is now my new place, so I just emailed the tenant and arranged to have a look at the place before the scheduled open house. The tenant sent my application in for me and that's really how I managed to get my current place. So I wouldn't be afraid to reach out and see if you can visit places before the scheduled open house. Good luck and hope this helps!

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Re: Renting with an L Permit

As most of the posts have mentioned, depending on the time of year most people end up on an L permit initially, as they only have a certain number of B to allocate in a year.
We were also on an L for the first year and had no problems renting at all, actually we had no problems doing anything, contracts for mobile phones etc. etc. that we had been told may be a problem
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

For us, the only real hiccup with the L permit was that instead of charging us a 2-month deposit they normally would have charged, they went ahead and asked us for 3 months, the legal maximum.

I don't know if we lucked out, but we didn't need to really do anything extra to get the place. Went to the open house, submitted the application w/ copy of Betreibungsbericht, they called my husband's employer and our then current landlord as references listed on our application, and then they called us to offer us the apartment.

I hope it goes as smoothly for you!
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For us, the only real hiccup with the L permit was that instead of charging us a 2-month deposit they normally would have charged, they went ahead and asked us for 3 months, the legal maximum.

I don't know if we lucked out, but we didn't need to really do anything extra to get the place. Went to the open house, submitted the application w/ copy of Betreibungsbericht, they called my husband's employer and our then current landlord as references listed on our application, and then they called us to offer us the apartment.

I hope it goes as smoothly for you!
Increasing the deposit has no advantage to the landlord as that money is put into a special rental deposit account in the tenant's name and cannot be released without the signatures of both parties. It does not cover unpaid rent if one needs to leave the country in case a permit is not renewed.
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

Thanks everyone. We've found a place now - it's the second place we saw, and the first one where I noticed the 'L-permit raised eyebrow', so I guess renting is easier than I thought!
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

Hi

I can understand your problem ,as we were in same situation a few months back.

My advice will be look for as many apartment as you can and submit the application with all relevant papers.
As it is said first impression is the last impression.

But don't loose hope you will surely find one

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Re: Renting with an L Permit

Hi Guys

Seeing all the posts on this thread has started to concern me! Oddly I thought that moving to Switzerland and finding a place to rent would be easy... evidently it is not!

I'm due to move very shortly and have the added complication of a cat... So I am concerned about finding appropriate accomodation for us...

Please can someone offer me some advice on Basel renting? I'm a UK citizen so apparently I don't need a work permit (correct?) but I do need a residence permit. Query; how do I apply for a residence permit without an address?? Or, as I'm visiting Basel in advance of my move, can I register then come back to the UK, pack up my stuff and move, safe in the knowledge I have my application underway?

Also, how difficult is it to rent without a residence permit? My contract is 11months long... I'm starting to think I'll be in temp accomodation for a long while!!

Please advise on the best course of action as you see it - any and all advice gratefully received!!
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

My experience is not at all good. I've been searching for more than one month, filed several applications. I finally got one accepted today by MIWO ag, close to work, everything great.
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, after one hour, they just called and canceled it. As a very lousy reason they referred to my L permit. Later they changed the reason to "not from EU", which made the whole story even more confusing. They knew both things before they accepted me.
However, I have a permanent contract at an excellent company, so no reason to believe that I would not be able to extend the permit. If they only want EU nations, they should state that in the ad.

All this is very unprofessional and disappointing to me. But still, I'm going to find a nice place, I'm not discouraged.
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Hi Guys

Seeing all the posts on this thread has started to concern me! Oddly I thought that moving to Switzerland and finding a place to rent would be easy... evidently it is not!

I'm due to move very shortly and have the added complication of a cat... So I am concerned about finding appropriate accomodation for us...

Please can someone offer me some advice on Basel renting? I'm a UK citizen so apparently I don't need a work permit (correct?) but I do need a residence permit. Query; how do I apply for a residence permit without an address?? Or, as I'm visiting Basel in advance of my move, can I register then come back to the UK, pack up my stuff and move, safe in the knowledge I have my application underway?

Also, how difficult is it to rent without a residence permit? My contract is 11months long... I'm starting to think I'll be in temp accomodation for a long while!!

Please advise on the best course of action as you see it - any and all advice gratefully received!!
You'll need your employment contract and an address where they can send you mail - this can be a hotel if necessary.

With an 11 month contract you'll only get an L permit but being a Brit that shouldn't get in the way of you renting a place - the limited term of the contract may well be an issue though.

For an 11 month gig I'd probably do a weekly commute.
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My experience is not at all good. I've been searching for more than one month ....
You won't get too much sympathy - one month isn't so long - others have been searching for over a year .
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You won't get too much sympathy - one month isn't so long - others have been searching for over a year .
Well, it wasn't my point to express the time duration, but to point out the whole trouble just because of L permit and/or the country of origin and also the non-professionalism of the above mentioned agency.
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Re: Renting with an L Permit

Hello, The above information is very helpful. However, I am wondering if anyone could add some advice in relation to my specific situation.

I am a US citizen, and I have an L permit that will expire in July of this year. I will receive a new L permit then, which will be valid until next summer ('12). I am a part time student, and have a 35% job at a good university. I am looking for a flat in Zurich now, but am worried that the fact that my current L permit will expire very soon is hurting my chances.

What do you all think? What can I do to increase my chances? As you can see, having an L permit is not my only issue, it's the fact that it expires soon and I don't have a new one yet....

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