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Old 20.01.2011, 20:03
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Renting -- How much Space per Person is Appropriate?

So I'm hearing rumors that Swiss landlords are biased in their approval of applications based on their perceptions of how much space is appropriate for the applicant.

For example, if you're single, and looking at apartments with 3 bedrooms, then you're likely to be declined, even if you make 200,000CHF/year and can afford the rent.

Is it true, that landlords like to reserve larger apartments for larger families? And that singles should just resign themselves to living in studios and 1 bedrooms, regardless of income?
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Re: Renting -- How much Space per Person is Appropriate?

Depends - if it's an expensive, fancy apartment, the single person who's hardly there is a better candidate than the family with kids who might draw on the walls. The city of Zurich applies the rule of "number of persons, plus one" for their (usually very good value and thus almost impossible to get) apartments, so if it's a three room, they want two people in it. In some cases they require at least one child, which is fairly new, started about two years ago.

Since you can afford to spend between a quarter and a third of your salary on an apartment, assuming you're really making 200 grand, that puts you in a rent market with not quite as many competitors as the 100 grand and below range.
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Is it true, that landlords like to reserve larger apartments for larger families? And that singles should just resign themselves to living in studios and 1 bedrooms, regardless of income?
This "unwritten" rule you mention does have some sense, when the landlords are looking for tenants who would stay many years in the flat. So yes, I would consider it exists to some extent, by common sense. Whether it's a very decisive rule, I would not be sure.

However, the rule is likely to be totally absent for the flats having not many persons interested in, because those flats would be too expensive, too far of civilization, to close of red-light district (not so great for a family with children), etc.

But don't forget the three first rules for a landlord picking the new tenant among several candidates : 1. Money, 2. Money, 3. Money. 1. You have to proove that nobody (in Switzerland) is offically running after you for unpaid bills. 2. You have to prove that your revenue is several times more than the amount of asked rent. 3. You have to convince that this job you have is steady (big company, long term employee, valid resident permit, etc.). Then, the minor rules may be used by the landlord/agency for picking the tenant. Such rules can be the number of people in the flat, the pets indicated in the paper, the photo on your ID card, your handwriting, the impression you made, the guarantees you offer, etc.

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Re: Renting -- How much Space per Person is Appropriate?

Hi All,

I am moving to Zurich soon and am looking for an apartment to rent out. I have a child and want to know what is the mininum number of rooms that are required , if you have a child and want to rent out an apartment.

Could I rent out a single bedroom apartment i.e. a hall & a bed room. Is that allowed ?

Would appreciate your quick response in this regard.

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oh..yeah..Spouse included.
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Re: Renting -- How much Space per Person is Appropriate?

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Hi All,

I am moving to Zurich soon and am looking for an apartment to rent out. I have a child and want to know what is the mininum number of rooms that are required , if you have a child and want to rent out an apartment.

Could I rent out a single bedroom apartment i.e. a hall & a bed room. Is that allowed ?

Would appreciate your quick response in this regard.

Thanks,
R
I dont know the rules specifically around such issues but shouldnt the child get his/her own room anyway???
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Depends - if it's an expensive, fancy apartment, the single person who's hardly there is a better candidate than the family with kids who might draw on the walls. The city of Zurich applies the rule of "number of persons, plus one" for their (usually very good value and thus almost impossible to get) apartments, so if it's a three room, they want two people in it. In some cases they require at least one child, which is fairly new, started about two years ago.

Since you can afford to spend between a quarter and a third of your salary on an apartment, assuming you're really making 200 grand, that puts you in a rent market with not quite as many competitors as the 100 grand and below range.
Yes , I agree a child should get his/her room. But my query is based on the rule in the above post , which states. "number of persons , plus one". So if its 3 persons then the minimum number of rooms that could be rent out is 3.5 and above ?
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Yes , I agree a child should get his/her room. But my query is based on the rule in the above post , which states. "number of persons , plus one". So if its 3 persons then the minimum number of rooms that could be rent out is 3.5 and above ?
A 3.5 room apartment will give you two bedrooms which is what you want.

Kittster's email was stating the opposite of what I think you are requesting. They are saying that the Zurich council won't rent a big apartment to someone which would leave bedrooms vacant. I believe you are requesting the smallest apartment you would be allowed to rent for your family. Is that correct?


Pedantic note: It's probably better to say "rent" rather than "rent out" if you are looking for a place for yourselves as "rent out" implies you have a place that you are intending on renting out an apartment to others.
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