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Old 02.08.2007, 16:19
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Help required for Appartment and swiss laws

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My name is subrahmanyam.I stayed in switzerland for 9 months.Now i am in India.I received a invoice stating that I need to pay 3.2K CHF for extra maintainance of the Appt.I left the Appt in March End.The final cleaning was done by a 3rd party agency hired by her and we vacated the flat.I stayed in Zurich till July in another flat too.No complaints,No invoices from any appts.

The marks were there when I landed also and I didnt pay attention to it.

Is it legal that a landlord can send the invoice after 4 months?
When asked over a phone,the answer i got is its "swiss law .It takes time to do paper work and provide u with invoice".I logically felt that this should happen during handover.

Unfortunately i dont have a written handover document.
Please help me in this regard.
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Old 02.08.2007, 17:00
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Re: Help required for Appartment and swiss laws

It is difficult to understand what you have written - like who is "her"?

Do you have a 'protocol'? A list of what was and wasn't in the flat and the condition of floors, wall, equipment etc. etc. You should have had one of these when you entered into the rental agreement. And this should have been signed by both parties (tenant and landlord) at the start and end of the tenancy and you should have a copy of this.

As I understand it your landlord is now wanting to charge CHF 3500 for some marks that you say was there when you started the rental agreement. What relevance has what you did between March and July and where are you now?
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Old 03.08.2007, 07:32
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Re: Help required for Appartment and swiss laws

Apolozies for the incomplete descrption."her" refers to the head of a rental agency in Swiss.When i landed in Swiss i have taken one of the appt that my company in swiss is managing.So no docs no checking nothing as such.After a couple of months the company hired a rental agency to manage these appts.I vacated the house in March end(means 6 months stay in that appt).The rental agency hired a cleaning agency for the final cleaning.It was occupied immediately by someone else.

We left switzerland on jun 28th(means we stayed in swiss for another 3 month after we left the appt).Last week we received a invoice that we need to pay 3.2K.

The damages reported:
1)The carpet that was outside, full of insects.
2)The kitchen cabinets unfortunatelly also full of animals(bugs).
3)The cabinet in the bathroom, that was falling apart due to the high humidity.
4)Roof of bathroom is having some black marks.

We asked
1.Why didnt you inform us when we vacated the house?
Swiss laws take long time to comeup with the paper work

2.What is the gurantee that we only did it?
It cannot happen in 3 months so we only contributed to that.

We stayed there for 6 months we never noticed these "animals".
we were not aware of these protocols.

Please help me.
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Old 03.08.2007, 08:04
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Re: Help required for Appartment and swiss laws

So you are no longer in Switzerland? If so and you don't want to ever come back, simply ignore it (but don't tell them I told you).

It is frankly unlikely that the bugs were in the cupboards and carpet and you did not notice. You could say that they came after you left, but without any protocol you don't have a leg to stand on, but then again neither do the renting agency, as you could ask for the protocol for when you arrived to prove these things arrived during your tenancy...
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Re: Help required for Appartment and swiss laws

I had an issue with my first landlord in Switzerland and looked for information on vacating houses. I think I remember that the landlord has a time period in which he has to go through the protocol (4 weeks or something like that). He must inform you of anything he plans to claim, and you get like 2 weeks to fix it.

Also, if your company's rental agency hired a cleaning company...why are they claiming about "bugs in the cupboard" and on the carpet, which lies outside anyhow ? Same thing for the humidity in the bathroom...where did you sign, saying you would install a window or a ventilation duct ??? To me it sounds like a lot of c*ap.

Also, in case you don't want to just ignore them, the Mieterverband in my Kanton (Sankt Gallen) offers a 20min. advice session for SFr40 for non-members. Probably others do too.
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Re: Help required for Appartment and swiss laws

Thank u ABfab and Caleb.

Can you kindly provide me the website which states that on or before 4 weeks time the landlord has to provide the invoice after vacating the house.Its been more than 4 months after we vactaed the house.

All the claims she made are false.

The prob is we will be visiting Swiss infuture,so i dont to be black marked in swiss.

Any help is welcome.

Eagerly waiting for any leads
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Re: Help required for Appartment and swiss laws

I have a question that is related to this thread. I remember that I signed the "protocol" when I arrived to my appartment, but didn't receive a copy of it. Do you know if this is the normal way things happen? Should I request by registerred mail a copy of the document?
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Old 27.10.2008, 09:22
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Re: Help required for Appartment and swiss laws

You should have received a copy, yes. I think you should simply call them and say that you seem to have misplaced it and would like a copy. No need to go out with the heavy artillery just yet. :-)

And for any newcomer to Switzerland reading this - make sure every tiny little faulty detail is written down in the protocol and make sure you get a copy of it.


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