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BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

Not sure I can mention the letting agencies name BUT I have an issue with the apartment I am living at in SCHWERZENBACH

I have at times BLACK WATER coming out of the hot water system. It is intermittent, so at times I cannot capture it. I have complained to my agency who amazingly have said they've seen this problem before and cannot do anything about it. Considering others haven't complained either.... basically I should just live with it.

My partner has made enquiries in the area and spoke to the janitor about it. He came round and said... oh yeah, I have this problem and then proceeded to try and get rid of the water we had saved in the bath / wash basin. My girlfriend stopped him from doing so.

I complained again to the agency, this time threatening to with-hold my payment for the month and eventually they send a lab (which I hear is owned by them) round to do some analysis. Now we are hearing nothing is wrong with the water, just a normal iron content.... oh yes.... that's another thing, there have been bits of metal in the water too.

What can we do????? Why should this agency get away with this appalling behaviour? Anyone offer any advice? Kreisburo also have shown an interest but nothing what we'd expect

Can the moderator of this forum advise me whether I can name the agency?
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Old 08.02.2011, 15:24
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

http://www.mieterverband.ch/ is where you want to go. Join up and ask them.
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Old 08.02.2011, 15:32
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

Stale water that has been standing for a long time appears black. You see it in central heating systems.

Have you just moved into an apartment that been standing empty for a long time?
Does it go away if you run all the taps for a while?
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Old 08.02.2011, 15:40
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

Maybe this is not new.. Your town is even named after a black stream.
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

I had been away for a while cos I was living at my girlfriends house and coming back at weekends. It would make sense what you say BUT it appears like black hair dye that runs for about 2-3 seconds and then goes away. The water does run clear for a while and then the black can appear again... I mean it is very black.
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Old 08.02.2011, 15:51
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

If you google "rusty water pipes" you'll find that despite it not looking terribly nice it's not as bad as it looks (at least health wise).

We just replaced all the water pipes in my apartment building (owner occupied) as the hot water lines were full of rust (see attachment). If I ran the hot water in the bath tub wide open I would have a very dark and disgusting bath awaiting me (nearly no rust from the cold water). Our building was built about 20 years ago and the problem was the standard of the time had the horizontal pipes in the basement with to large of a diameter which allowed air to accumulate allowing rust to form.

If the pipes need to be changed in your building (as I suspect) it's not going to be cheap and you can also expect the rent to increase in the near future because of it.
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Old 08.02.2011, 15:54
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Not sure I can mention the letting agencies name BUT I have an issue with the apartment I am living at in SCHWERZENBACH

I have at times BLACK WATER coming out of the hot water system. It is intermittent, so at times I cannot capture it. I have complained to my agency who amazingly have said they've seen this problem before and cannot do anything about it. Considering others haven't complained either.... basically I should just live with it.

My partner has made enquiries in the area and spoke to the janitor about it. He came round and said... oh yeah, I have this problem and then proceeded to try and get rid of the water we had saved in the bath / wash basin. My girlfriend stopped him from doing so.

I complained again to the agency, this time threatening to with-hold my payment for the month and eventually they send a lab (which I hear is owned by them) round to do some analysis. Now we are hearing nothing is wrong with the water, just a normal iron content.... oh yes.... that's another thing, there have been bits of metal in the water too.

What can we do????? Why should this agency get away with this appalling behaviour? Anyone offer any advice? Kreisburo also have shown an interest but nothing what we'd expect

Can the moderator of this forum advise me whether I can name the agency?
Can you post a picture of the black water? standing or running, as long as we can see it.
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

Hi all,

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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

If it's just rust you have no problem but if you have lead pipes then it's time to worry!!
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Old 08.02.2011, 16:09
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

On the plus side, your anaemia problem seems to have improved.
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Old 08.02.2011, 16:10
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

If it was rust, would it prove it to put a magnet in the water and see if it attracts all the 'dirt'.
In the UK I have a magnetic filter on the pipes in the central heating system taht attracts any the rusty gunk in the system, which can then be withdrawn and wiped clean. (Magnaclean)
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

Does it stink of anything?

In Ireland our water was brown and smelled horrible. This came out of a nearby reservoir, so it explained allot..
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Old 08.02.2011, 16:22
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

That doesn't look like rust. As hinted at in the subject and OP, the water is black. When I've been away for a couple of days and put the bathroom sink hot tap on, I get rusty coloured water for around 10 seconds. It's not black.
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Old 08.02.2011, 16:25
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

Be careful with the water in your tub, if you leave it in there to long it will settle and create a stain/ring that will be hard to remove..
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

It doesn't smell of anything, it's just black like hair dye

I have run the hot water taps for a while and after a while the problem goes but then it comes back the next day

My agency needs to do something!
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Old 08.02.2011, 17:08
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

as others have said, its just rust in the pipes, short of ripping all the pipes out and replacing everything there isn't much they can do. doesn't look that bad to me, certainly not black like hair dye!!

if you can't live with it then move out, replacing the pipes would take while, cost a fortune and cause you a hell of a lot more inconvenience then running the taps for a few seconds to clear the crap.
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

Oh trust me it is worse, it's just mixed with clear water from before

The thing is that it isn't black to start with, it takes a minute or two to come out then it'll be a burst of about 2-3 seconds of jet black stuff so it's very difficult to capture when it comes. So work that out
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I was expecting further revelations of Iraqi atrocities
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

Haven't checked out the nationalities of the agency

Will keep you posted
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Re: BLACK WATER - You wont believe this!

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http://www.mieterverband.ch/ is where you want to go. Join up and ask them.
As Carlos R said earlier, Mietverband are the people to go to. Become a member and then ask for their advice, it's their speciality as they're the Swiss Tenants Association.
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