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Foncia Immobilier - any experience

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So, apparently we are moving to Lausanne. All's well and nice, but I've heard horror stories about housing in Lausanne and we would like a nice apartment where we could live a little longer (i.e. not just a year or 2) so we are a bit picky too

I stumbled upon Foncia, who say they will get you an apartment for as little as 300 CHF or as much as half your first rent. If that would guarantee me getting a nice apartment in the 4 months I have (will submit my notice at the end of February, according to my present agency) I think it would be worth it, but I cannot seem to find any info about it. So please, tell me, has any one of you had any experience with real estate agencies that got them the apartment they needed without the fuss? Did someone try Foncia? Was the price worth it? Can we find an apartment in 4 months or will we be homeless at the end of June (notice, we picked a good time, when it's warm outside )?

I am so scared of this step, more so than when I first moved here. I don't even want to think about movers and cleaners. Btw, is it worth moving the furniture or should I just sell it and get new one (we have Ikea furniture, nothing fancy).

Aaah, a lot of questions. Thank you so much for your help!
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Old 11.02.2011, 13:53
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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

Our previous Regie was Foncia and they were rubbish to be honest. They didn't actually find the flat for us, but they were distinctly unhelpful in the 11 years we were renting through them.
They were also the PPE administrators for our flat when we bought it, but we decided to ditch them as they were totally useless and inactive in that respect too.
This was in Fribourg, so maybe the Lausanne office is better (I suspect not though).
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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

You're right there, housing is difficult in Lausanne. Got our apartment in Lausanne through www.swiss-access.ch . They showed us around 6 different alternatives in one day and we chose one of them. Friendly, competent in all of our dealings with them. Don't know what fee they charge as our employer paid.
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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

That is great, thank you How much time do you estimate the whole process took? Again, I am scared of being homeless in 4 months
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Difficulty in finding a place depends of course primarily on your budget, more choices if you can afford a high rent. The other factors are your housing needs, are you dependent upon living in an apartment in the center of town or are you looking for a house, can you commute by car or public transportation to and from outlying areas, how large a place you need to accomodate your family, if you need proximity to schools etc. Even though the housing market is tough here, everyone we know has found a place, so you should too. It took us one day of viewings, then the usual bureaucratic rigamarole, getting ok from owner, signing papers. All in all less than 1 month. Have you looked at www.immoscout24.ch and www.homegate.ch housing websites that can give you an idea of what's available and rental costs. Good luck!

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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

Thank you for the encouragement. I have of course been hunting down on websites like homegate.ch but what I hate about those is that most don't put up pictures of the actual place, the building at most. I would help so much more in making a decision...we would love to live in the Ouchy area, it looks wonderful and my boyfriend works there. I would work in Morges so I would commute by car anyway. We only need 2-3 rooms, as we are two with no plans for children at the moment and the highest rent we could pay would be around 2000 CHF. I think we should be ok...I'm off to check immoscout. If anyone is leaving and has a nice apartment in Lausanne to let...please PM me
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I have been to their office in Lausanne to speak about this service they have. I would have been more than happy to pay and forget about this whole business of finding an apartment to rent.

They replied, in a very unfriendly manner, that they no longer do it for apartments of less that 4 rooms.

Everything else about Switzerland I can understand and come to accept, but this situation with the housing is ridiculous. I have seen some people that managed to have many visits in a single day. I couldn't. If you are not available immediatly, the apartment is given to someone else in the matter of hours.
The agency will not tell you when they will decide if you are good enough for them, and if you win the lottery, they will make you pay if you do not accept, so you can't try more than one apartment each time.
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I have been to their office in Lausanne to speak about this service they have. I would have been more than happy to pay and forget about this whole business of finding an apartment to rent.

They replied, in a very unfriendly manner, that they no longer do it for apartments of less that 4 rooms.

Everything else about Switzerland I can understand and come to accept, but this situation with the housing is ridiculous. I have seen some people that managed to have many visits in a single day. I couldn't. If you are not available immediatly, the apartment is given to someone else in the matter of hours.
The agency will not tell you when they will decide if you are good enough for them, and if you win the lottery, they will make you pay if you do not accept, so you can't try more than one apartment each time.
Ask your company to organize it for you.
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@Venza: Oh no, I would have been so happy to pay for this service. Why only for 4 rooms and up? Bleurgh

@danny: organise what?
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@Venza: Oh no, I would have been so happy to pay for this service. Why only for 4 rooms and up? Bleurgh

@danny: organise what?
organize the apt for you, finding etc
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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

Yes welll...they don't do that. Even for people they bring here, they offer them a place to stay until they find their own apartment. They offered to help though with letters etc for the agencies but the actual "hunting"will still be for us...
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Yes welll...they don't do that. Even for people they bring here, they offer them a place to stay until they find their own apartment. They offered to help though with letters etc for the agencies but the actual "hunting"will still be for us...

How long do they offer a place ? Hopefully not just a month.
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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

Well, I think it is indefinite, but i am not using one of those. I live in Neuchatel and sharing the car to commute with the lovely boyfriend. We need to move so I made the 'notice de bail' that gives us 4 months to find an apartment. It should be plenty of time but we're both still waiting for our permits (estimated 3 weeks) and after all the horror stories I've heard i am beginning to feel nervous and picture us living on the streets )
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we would love to live in the Ouchy area, it looks wonderful and my boyfriend works there. I would work in Morges so I would commute by car anyway. We only need 2-3 rooms, as we are two with no plans for children at the moment and the highest rent we could pay would be around 2000 CHF. I think we should be ok...I'm off to check immoscout. If anyone is leaving and has a nice apartment in Lausanne to let...please PM me
This is why people have trouble finding apartments. Your criteria just don't allow for many (if any) options. And if you do find anything that fits this criteria it will have 20 or more people competing for the same place.

There are currently 3 apartments that I found listed on Homegate in Ouchy: one for 4,000 and two that were 29m2 for 1800 & 2000. Plus you need parking, in Ouchy, which is also extremely difficult and expensive.

If you don't want your search to be impossible, you have to be realistic with your expectations, ie. You need to plan to live somewhere other than Ouchy.
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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

miniMia, thanks for the advice. Well, we are not so radical, I just gave my ideal setting. We are looking all around, also in Prilly and Pully, and also somewhere really close to the metro, as my boyfriend has the Ouchy train station 2 minutes from his work. it would of course be preferable for it to be towards Morges, so that I don't have to pass through all Lausanne in the morning when going to work. But believe me, we are really flexible, we are also looking in Morges, and if we get something bigger and nicer there for the same money there would be no issue with that. Trust me, anything sounds appealing when you're threatened with living on the streets )

Any tips and hints on where people don't kill each other for apartments?
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miniMia, thanks for the advice. Well, we are not so radical, I just gave my ideal setting. We are looking all around, also in Prilly and Pully, and also somewhere really close to the metro, as my boyfriend has the Ouchy train station 2 minutes from his work. it would of course be preferable for it to be towards Morges, so that I don't have to pass through all Lausanne in the morning when going to work. But believe me, we are really flexible, we are also looking in Morges, and if we get something bigger and nicer there for the same money there would be no issue with that. Trust me, anything sounds appealing when you're threatened with living on the streets )

Any tips and hints on where people don't kill each other for apartments?
LOL. Well, I'm glad you are flexible. You did say in your first post you were picky. So I just wanted to point that the more picky one is more difficulty it will have in finding place.

Clearly it gets easier the further out of the center and the further way from the lake you get. It's not a bad idea to take public transportation out towards the ends of the lines and see what is available out there. You'll generally find it easier to get parking, a bit bigger place or a cheaper smaller place, etc. Also you need to go see everything, even if there are no pictures listed.

One tip I will give you is to be available to take an apartment right away. Look for ads listed as available immediately and for private ads for people that want out of their lease. If you are available right away this can better your chances as the current tenant often wants out of their lease, doesn't want to pay extra months for a place they won't be living in.
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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

Oh, and another tip: Visit everything! The outside may be a bit ugly or drab, but the inside could be a blank canvas and you might miss living in a great neighborhood. I found an apartment that would fit your criteria but the building is really really ugly, the location is FAB!

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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

why not to find ads where you are offered to "pick up" some one's lease? you can look offers at anibis.ch
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Re: Foncia Immobilier - any experience

Wow, thanks everyone for the great tips. i have just discovere anibis.ch, sounds very interesting and yes, I was thinking the same with taking someone else's lease. The issue is that i need to wait fro my permit first which will take apparently about two weeks from now, then i can start searching for real. I already found one or 2 apartments I think are great but i think they'll be gone by mid march.

When I said picky, I meant more the appt itself, because when I moved here, it took me 2 days to find a place, as I didn't really care that much, as I knew it would be more or less temporary. With his one however, we'd like it to be bigger, in an ok neighbourhood, not too far from our work, etc. But I am sure we'll find something, I woke up in a really good mood today. We were also thinking of looking in Morges, though I haven't seen mant appts listed there, but we might find something near the lake with a nice view...it would be worth living outside of Lausanne
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