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Old 23.02.2011, 10:32
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Hi all,

I hope you can help me. I have lived in my Seefeld apartment for four years now. A 2.5 70m sq affair. Paying CHF 2,000+.
It seems the extra 0.5 is for my large kitchen (space for a dining table) etc. and about 8-10 cupboards most of which are empty or useless, it seems like an awful lot for the size of the apartment.

I have not up until now spent much time or cooked at home, but now find myself at home with my new GF alot. It has become apparent that I now do a lot of washing up, which isn't so much fun.

The question (finally) is then, I need a dishwasher, for these times it seems the apartment should have one - Can I ask my landlord to fit one, or is this something that I would pay for?

I have no issue with paying for it really I guess, but wanted to know my options and the process I would have to go to get one in my apartment. I plan on staying a while.

Any experiences would be great.

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Old 23.02.2011, 10:45
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I read recently that you can ask permission to have it installed, and if you pay yourself and then leave within a certain period of time, you may be reimbursed part of the cost. It's complicated, because it depends on the lifespan accorded to that particular machine and then there's a calculation based on the unused part of your investment. The guide I have is in French, if you want I can scan the relevant section and send it to you, just PM me.
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Re: Asking for/putting in a dsihwasher

There are 2 possibilities, convince the owner to instal one for you, offering of course more rent. Or installing one yourself, and probably removing it when you leave, or giving it away to the owner. You need to convince the owner first though.
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There are 2 possibilities, convince the owner to instal one for you, offering of course more rent. Or installing one yourself, and probably removing it when you leave, or giving it away to the owner. You need to convince the owner first though.
Thank you for the response. In terms of the increasing the rent, is this an event that triggers a revaluation to market rates? (seems rents have increased a lot sisnce I took on my apartment) or would it be the incremental cost of the dishwasher cost? Say CHF3,000-5,000k over 8-10 years? with interest etc?

Would like to know before I call my landlord I guess.

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Re: Asking for/putting in a dsihwasher

We bought a freestanding dishwasher. We conect it directly to the faucet using a special coupling. We didn't have to bother the landlord and we can just take it away any time we want. And of course, we didn't have to pay an specialist to install it.
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Old 23.02.2011, 11:59
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We bought a freestanding dishwasher. We conect it directly to the faucet using a special coupling. We didn't have to bother the landlord and we can just take it away any time we want. And of course, we didn't have to pay an specialist to install it.
That sounds pretty good, do you not need to worry about extra insurance etc? Does it fit on the counter top? or does it stick out? I am worried about flooding the apartment, creating too much noise, or having a dishwasher sticking out.
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Re: Asking for/putting in a dishwasher

Join the mieterverband. They will be the best people to advise you if the rent is increased unreasonably if you request for a simple dishwasher to be fitted.

Also, afaik, due to the change in interest rates, many tenants are entitled up to 3% reduction in their net rent as of April this year. Not sure if its possible, but this might be a bargaining chip if you qualify and have yet to receive anything about it (ie: dont reduce the rent, just give me a dishwasher).

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Join the mieterverband. They will be the best people to advise you if the rent is increased unreasonably if you request for a simply dishwasher to be fitted.

Also, afaik, due to the change in interest rates, many tenants are entitled up to 3% reduction in their net rent as of April this year. Not sure if its possible, but this might be a bargaining chip if you qualify and have yet to receive anything about it (ie: dont reduce the rent, just give me a dishwasher).

http://www.englishforum.ch/housing-g...reduction.html
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but now find myself at home with my new GF alot. It has become apparent that I now do a lot of washing up.

Dude, get out, get out now, never look back.
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Now THAT is why EF is so great! Many thanks Summer Rain.
I have a friend who installed himself, it is not very hard he said, if you need further information, I could ask him if you want

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Re: Asking for/putting in a dsihwasher

It was too big for our counter top, we had to put it on a small table. But if you prefer a bigger one I believe you can put it simple on the floor

It's not noisy, when it's washing we just close the kitchen's door and forget about it. Actually, at buy time it you can check the noise and vibration levels it produces.

Regarding the insurance, I don't thin we need one additional to our personal liability insurance, but I have to check the small print. A neighbor flooded his bathroom because he improperly connected his washing machine, but his insurance covered the damages.
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Re: Asking for/putting in a dsihwasher

we also leased a mini machine from Fust which is tucked away in the bathroon on the floor, connected to the tap with an attachment. It really quiet and great for doing the babys laundry, doesnt flood (yet . We can just take it away or give it back to Fust when we move.

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