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Old 01.03.2011, 15:24
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House sale and DIY UPVC windows

I am thinking of getting some double glazed windows made in PVC from the UK, proper Pilkington glass, and installing them myself. I have installed German sourced windows in Germany, etc, where house construction is similar to Swiss, so I know how to physically put a window in.

There are very strict regulations now in the UK about window installation and questions are asked at time of house sale. http://www.fensa.org.uk/

i haven't seen such regulation here. What am I missing? Has anyone done something like this?
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Old 01.03.2011, 15:26
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Re: House sale and DIY UPVC windows

you know you can buy DIY double glazed windows in jumbo, coop home and hobby, bauhaus etc etc
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Re: House sale and DIY UPVC windows

These windows are quite a bit cheaper, 200 pounds each including VAT, for quite a large good quality (better in my opinion), attractive window made to my exact size. I have also checked Poland, where similar windows are circa 180 Euros including VAT at 23%. So some VAT to claim back at customs too.

However, in the UK now, due to energy efficiency, eco, ventilation laws, the new window should, amongst other things, have more or equivalent openings than the old one, be at least as energy efficient, and be installed by a Fensa specialist. If the windows have been installed post 2010, then they need either a Fensa certificat or buildings regs approval, otherwise the conveyancing solicitor will flag it and the property won't be morgagable without some hassle. DIY fitted windows pre-dating that are OK.

If Switzerland is like the UK once was, buy it, take it home and DIY fit, then this idea could work.
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Re: House sale and DIY UPVC windows

There are a lot of very good glass companies in the Luzern area, Pilkington included. Out of curiousity, have you looked at local prices for the glass?

I suppose you can do whatever you want, but there is a Swiss quality label called Minergie that sets standards for buildings. In the case of windows, there is a U standard where the U-Value rating of windows are not to exceed 1,0 W/m²K.

U < 1,0 W/m²K

This indicates the units of watts per square meter per degree Kelvin. Double-glazed Pilkington glass is sure to meet that. Triple-glazed Pilkington glass would even cut that in half to 0,5.

Now, the frame of the window is the other issue.

For more information, google Minergie.
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Re: House sale and DIY UPVC windows

hi there,

I work for a window factory in the city of zurich, in service and installations.
we do all kinds of things. I also install windows beside my job, so if you need help with installation let me know! Here in CH the window company goes to your house and measures out your windows, to get exact size as no is the same in older houses. there is a double pane window and triple pane.
if you own a house that is fairly old then its fine to get double pane, and not wise for triple. if you like i can come by your house and give you some advice about windows.

regards Erik

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Re: House sale and DIY UPVC windows

so you want to do the windows at a house in the uk?

we had our windows done there a few years ago by a family member who works for one of the large double glazing companies, when we came to sell the place the buyers solicitors asked for the certificates etc and as we couldn't produce them we had to pay for an insurance policy (about £100 iirc) so if the buyer had any issues in the future they would be covered. how good the policy is is anyones guess, his solicitor sorted it all out.
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Re: House sale and DIY UPVC windows

bigblue2: Don't want to do the windows in the UK, just thought of buying them there and bringing them over. Had the windows in your UK place been done post 2010, the problem would have been more complicated I suspect.

cannnuck: Thanks for the offer, have sent you a PM.
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Re: House sale and DIY UPVC windows

There are some government grants/extra tax breaks available for installing new windows (and other energy saving upgrades to your house). In Suisse Romande they are called "subventions". Grants for all of Switzerland are processed out of Zurich. The windows have to be of a certain U value (I think they need to be triple glazed).

Here is the department responsible:

http://www.bfe.admin.ch/energie/0058...x.html?lang=en

Gebäudeprogramm AG
Neugasse 10
8005 Zürich

tél. 058 680 41 10
fax 043 343 96 91

From their website:


Buildings programme
The cantons and the federal government initiated a joint "Buildings" programme at the beginning of 2010. This programme is to run for ten years and its purpose is to support energy-efficient renovation and the use of renewable energy in buildings. The programme will receiving funding in the amount of 200 million Swiss francs per annum from a portion of the earmarked revenue from the CO2 fee. This means that, together with cantonal promotion programmes, a total of 280 to 300 million Swiss francs per annum will be available for the programme's promotion activities. Application forms and documentation were posted on the programme's web site (www.dasgebaeudeprogramm.ch) on 4 January 2010, and the approval process was initiated in March 2010.
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