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Re: Linoleum floors

CH site.

Technical specs are on page 12 of the brochure.

Available in FR and DE.

Link FR: http://www.forbo-flooring.ch/fr/Bati...rite/surestep/

Link DE: http://www.forbo-flooring.ch/de/Busi...step-original/
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Wooden floors are fine with underfloor heating.
Wood is my first choice, but the problem with wood and floor heating is that it does not act as a good conductor of heat. It has the effect of insulating against heat.


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I actually like lino floors. Would I have one in my sitting room? No. But I'd probably have a lino floor rather than a tiled floor (unless it was slate)
Yes, it is totally practical in some rooms, such as my office, laundry room, hobby raum and the kid's rooms. But it would be cheesy in the living room, IMO. My S.O. doesn't like it either. So we may do a mix of it in some rooms that can be isolated, but use something nicer in the the rest of the house..... I think. I'll also look at Amtico to see if it is worth it.
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Wood is my first choice, but the problem with wood and floor heating is that it does not act as a good conductor of heat. It has the effect of insulating against heat.
You'd be surprised, we have underfloor heating and wooden floors, and this works well.



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Yes, it is totally practical in some rooms, such as my office, laundry room, hobby raum and the kid's rooms. But it would be cheesy in the living room, IMO. My S.O. doesn't like it either. So we may do a mix of it in some rooms that can be isolated, but use something nicer in the the rest of the house..... I think. I'll also look at Amtico to see if it is worth it.
I also would not use this in a living room but would consider it in a 'wet room' i.e. bathroom, or hobby office etc... I did install a simular product in an apartment in the UK, the main reason for choosing this was I built a raised floor which meant the bath was sunk in the floor, and I thought tiles would not be suitable in case there was movement in the floor, therefore I wanted a more flexible material. If the room is big enough to need joins, then this needs to be done professionally.
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Old 04.03.2011, 08:25
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Re: Linoleum floors

Linoleum products have changed over the years. From the dull colors of the past, when it was considered a rather 'poor' solution for flooring, it has become a very lively product, pleasing to the eye.

Linoleum is made from renewable materials, mainly from solidified linseed oil, pine rosin, ground cork dust, wood flour and pigments to color, melted down on a canvas. It is organic, non allergic, and easy to clean. It can be laid in rolls or in tiles of many forms or sizes, inlaid with various designs and colors. Wear resistance is very good.

The largest present day manufacturer of linoleum is Kirkcaldy-based Forbo Nairn. There is also a production site just north of Amsterdam. The company is part of the Switzerland-based Forbo Group, somewhere in Ticino.

I wouldn't hesitate to use it in children rooms, bathrooms, or even the entire night section of the house. Also for the hobby room and other secondary spaces. The use of lino in the day section would depend on the overal style of the house.

The rolls come in a width of 2 meters, which means that in a normal children's room under 4 m wide, you would have 1 seaming.

On some 10.000m2 lino floor in a public building here in Fribourg, we hardly found any insufficient seaming. As the seaming is done in the same colour as the lino, they are hardly noticeable.
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Linoleum can be very respectable. Some of the very tough types can be really successful and long lasting in use. And then of course there is Amtico - very expensive, very hard wearing and can look a millions dollars with the right selection of patterns/colours.

I saw an Amtico installation today. It was suppose to be wood. But the grain looked like it was computer generated. It's was like being in a 3D computer twitch game. Because of that, it was obvious it was synthetic. I'll see if I can find a different installation with a different pattern.

At the moment I'm considering a slate-like cement. The rep insists that it is compatible with floor heating, and that it stores heat. I'd love to see some sort of heat rating, but none available.
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Floor tiles and slate-like cement are good heat conductors, so OK for floor heating. Wood and carpet are not that good for floor heating.
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Re: Linoleum floors

Hi , I Put down a floor in the kitchen, lino upper, cork under. Click flooring, easy to lay, looks good. Hard wearing, easy to clean. Size - 30cm / 90cm. Comes in packets. floating floor. No nails no worries.
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Old 14.03.2011, 15:06
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Re: Linoleum floors

Does lino still smells, like it used to? I wouldn't use lino since it makes me feel like in school or recess, but the linos they make now are surely pretty...

I have two esthetic problems with it, the noise (it sounds cheap) and the smell. I think it is very practical, if you have little kids, but if you want something cozy, I'd rather have parkettes, wodden planks, etc.
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Does lino still smells, like it used to? I wouldn't use lino since it makes me feel like in school or recess, but the linos they make now are surely pretty...

I have two esthetic problems with it, the noise (it sounds cheap) and the smell. I think it is very practical, if you have little kids, but if you want something cozy, I'd rather have parkettes, wodden planks, etc.

As I recall, linoleum was made with formaldehyde and the smell is noticeable. Recently, I've been told that it isn't so anymore. But I have a distrust of salespeople, so I try to get first hand feedback when possible.
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Re: Linoleum floors

I could assume formaldehyde was a component of linoleum once, but when claiming to be fully ecological nowadays, I would expect it is FDH-free. FDH might be present tough in the self-levelling layer or the glue or tape used to lay the lino. But then, the company, or the craftsman posing it, should be able to inform.
On my job site, we have had complaints by people on persisting smells from carpets. It turned out to be the glue used to fix the carpet. It is clear it is no use to have a natural product if you have to fix it with a noxious product...
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Re: Linoleum floors

I know there is supposed to be no risk now, some companies claim that there is no "added" formaldehyde, when it could be they don't powder it with added stuff, but it is still made off material that slowly releases toxins when the environment at home is humid or hot, maybe in lesser extent. I can ask people who work with these this data back home...On the other hand, if there are no asthmatics or seriously allergic people at your home, and you air, etc, it's probably fine.
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...On the other hand, if there are no asthmatics or seriously allergic people at your home, and you air, etc, it's probably fine.
MC, I was mentioning my job site... Some 10'000 people... There must be some asthmatics or allergics...
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MC, I was mentioning my job site... Some 10'000 people... There must be some asthmatics or allergics...
Yeah, then they shouldn't be working with indoor polutants (glues, and other yummy things). Let's not drag this ott, though.
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