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A large number of squatters have just occupied one of the houses in our road. I believe that the previous occupants were evicted so the landlord could renovate and charge higher prices. I was just wondering what rights the squatters have in Switzerland, and if I can expect any entertainment if the police decide to do anything about them!

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Old 25.03.2011, 20:28
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Hi All,

A large number of squatters have just occupied one of the houses in our road. I believe that the previous occupants were evicted so the landlord could renovate and charge higher prices.
Highly unlikely unless there were unusual grounds. Probably just terminated their contracts according to the defined notice period. It's a normal factor in apartment living and there's no need to make the landlord appear to be the bad guy .

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I was just wondering what rights the squatters have in Switzerland, and if I can expect any entertainment if the police decide to do anything about them!
Yes, it might take a few weeks but the police will turn up in the early hours and remove them en masse. I've seen it twice and both times it was like a social gathering rather than a forced eviction - the police and squatters appeared to know each other.
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Re: Squatters

They almost always do know eachother, and, there are communities of squatters/alternative culture that are supported by local authorities and are tolerated in certain buildings, etc. Les Grottes in Geneva would be a good example. Usually, very organized, with a cultural program, etc.

If there is a few week window that illegal tenants want to use, knowing the house will be renovated soon, they might make an agreement with commune/police. If they do make a mess, though, police will act upon local residents reporting.
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I wouldn't say the counter-culture is supported by the city. Everyone knows low-cost housing is difficult to find, so the city is rather tolerant in its reaction toward squatters. While they are occupied, water and electricity has to be supplied and the legal process to evict them takes a long time. One of the most famous is the Rhino which took 20 years!
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I wouldn't say the counter-culture is supported by the city. Everyone knows low-cost housing is difficult to find, so the city is rather tolerant in its reaction toward squatters. While they are occupied, water and electricity has to be supplied and the legal process to evict them takes a long time. One of the most famous is the Rhino which took 20 years!
I know some are, most probably aren't. Having been one myself, and in a totally different environment/gov attitude, I don't know any perpetual squatter, I can't imagine 20yrs of that lifestyle.

Les Grottes have a lot of empty, run down buildings, though. There are quartiers or streets seem to have a history of art/galleries/squats/projects, I wonder if all of those would be in a process of being sued by the city. I think some communes historically tolerate more in some streets, etc. Looks like it. I might ask next time I am at a gig there, what the official situ is.
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Highly unlikely unless there were unusual grounds. Probably just terminated their contracts according to the defined notice period. It's a normal factor in apartment living and there's no need to make the landlord appear to be the bad guy .
Sorry for any offence caused to nice landlords

You could be right and I really don't know the details. The building has been marked for construction for years now, and when the previous occupants left, they also left a huge sign saying "goodbye, we give up".

Anyway, thanks for the comments. There is definitely a little more colour in the neighbourhood right now!
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Les Grottes have a lot of empty, run down buildings, though. There are quartiers or streets seem to have a history of art/galleries/squats/projects, I wonder if all of those would be in a process of being sued by the city. I think some communes historically tolerate more in some streets, etc. Looks like it. I might ask next time I am at a gig there, what the official situ is.
If they are being sued, the city does not seem to be in a hurry! I think it is just that the alternative culture is accepted in Geneva. Look at L'Ilot. Or the buildings across the street from Manor. A really funny combination of a chic-y department store and housing full of artist-types. I love it!
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