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Backing off from signing housing rental agreement

Dear All,

I just found other thread on this forum about my situation which explains that in case agency decides to rent the apartment to me then next stage is signing an agreement and if I fail to proceed to agreement then pay some admin charges which is generally 100 chf.

But my situation is slightly diffrent, I saw an apartment last week and liked the apartment and immidiately sent all application forms with other documents

I now have contract copy and deposit document form the rental agency and deposit is two month rent which is quite unusual and which I was not aware of.

And this was never mentioned any where in application form.

It there any way to get away without paying 100 so called admin charges on this ground.

I thought there is some process where one applies for the apartment, get selected for rent, agency communicate this, finally one agree with the agency that he/she wants to go ahead and sign an agreement.

I directly recieved contract copy without any communication from agency and the two month rent was never mentioned anywhere. I have applied for couple of other apartments and I am concerned I might end up paying for some of them if they directly send the contract without formal offer.

Could someone here suggest if one has to pay for these admin cost in case of change of mind.

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Old 08.04.2011, 23:14
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Re: Backing off from signing an housing rental agreement

Yes, verbal contract is binding. 2 months deposit is normal.

Be careful this is not a scam. Does the agent have an office here? If not be prepared for a scam being run on you.
The 2 month rental deposit MUST be paid into a locked bank account in your name. Anything else is illegal.
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Yes, verbal contract is binding. 2 months deposit is normal.
...and 3 months is not uncommon.
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Dear All,

I just found other thread on this forum about my situation which explains that in case agency decides to rent the apartment to me then next stage is signing an agreement and if I fail to proceed to agreement then pay some admin charges which is generally 100 chf.

But my situation is slightly diffrent, I saw an apartment last week and liked the apartment and immidiately sent all application forms with other documents

I now have contract copy and deposit document form the rental agency and deposit is two month rent which is quite unusual and which I was not aware of.

And this was never mentioned any where in application form.

It there any way to get away without paying 100 so called admin charges on this ground.

I thought there is some process where one applies for the apartment, get selected for rent, agency communicate this, finally one agree with the agency that he/she wants to go ahead and sign an agreement.

I directly recieved contract copy without any communication from agency and the two month rent was never mentioned anywhere. I have applied for couple of other apartments and I am concerned I might end up paying for some of them if they directly send the contract without formal offer.

Could someone here suggest if one has to pay for these admin cost in case of change of mind.

Thanks
IG
You will have to pay the admin costs, welcome to Switzerland!
2 months rent deposit is low, I paid 3 months.
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Old 08.04.2011, 23:21
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Re: Backing off from signing an housing rental agreement

usually people are happy for getting the apartment without being in a queue with other potential apartment hunters. It seldom happens like that and paying 2-3 months rental upfront is normal even in India.
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Re: Backing off from signing housing rental agreement

OP you are wrong, 2 months is pretty standard, and if you are choosing to not take the apartment after going this far expect to pay some charges. This is the sort of behaviour that leads to expats having difficulty getting apartments. Something that cannot have been for seen is maybe grounds argue for any charge to be waived, but buyers remorse or ignorance of the costs involved isn't one of them if they are reasonable, and a reasonable person would ask about costs BEFORE having a contract drawn up.
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But my situation is slightly diffrent, I saw an apartment last week and liked the apartment and immidiately sent all application forms with other documents

I now have contract copy and deposit document form the rental agency and deposit is two month rent which is quite unusual and which I was not aware of.

And this was never mentioned any where in application form.
I suppose you could just cross out the offending clause & ask them to redraft the contract, lawyers do it all the time. No idea what their reaction will be!
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I suppose you could just cross out the offending clause & ask them to redraft the contract, lawyers do it all the time. No idea what their reaction will be!
I don`t think there is an offending clause... When we rented here, it was never really mentioned about the # of months deposit... But wne we finalized, it was 3 months in fact... However this was stated on the final contract...

In the states, it is "customary" for a 1 month deposit and 1st month paid.. Sometimes last month as well...

I can understand the deposit, for anyone (expat or not). If they did not do that, many people would just walk out of the contract, and leave the place in not so great condition... We even had to pay for final cleaning up front, which I was not informed of initially... But now I am glad we did... We can basically leave at the end of the contract and just do a basic clean.... And it cost less that 1000sFr...
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Re: Backing off from signing housing rental agreement

If you are backing out the deal because of the 2 months deposit then you are never going to rent anything in Switzerland as that's the rule (sometimes is 3 months rent like in my case), that's the way it works here, you will get that money back when you move out (sometimes after some pain and tears!)...
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I now have contract copy and deposit document form the rental agency and deposit is two month rent which is quite unusual and which I was not aware of.
Yes, 2 months deposit is a little unusual, as very often 3 is the norm
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Re: Backing off from signing housing rental agreement

Dear All,

Thank you for your response.

May be I need to learn how it works it switzerland. The reason why I said two months rent unusual is because I have been staying in the town for nearly 4 years and rented had gone through the same process 4 times because of my work permit status.

and have seen many houses and I never came across where deposit was more then one month rent.

But I agree with you that best way would be to pay the admin charges if I don't want to proceed with the current apartment.


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Old 10.04.2011, 11:55
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The reason why I said two months rent unusual is because I have been staying in the town for nearly 4 years and rented had gone through the same process 4 times because of my work permit status.
Which town?
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Re: Backing off from signing housing rental agreement

You could go down this route http://www.swisscaution.ch/en/home it's mentioned elsewhere in the forum.
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Re: Backing off from signing housing rental agreement

I would agree with patsy. If you don't have the the deposit but want the apartment swisscaution is a good alternative. Its quick and easy and is a cheaper alternative to finding large amounts all at once. Its a sort of insurance policy for the landlord to gaurentee your deposit and you pay a yearly premium for it...usually about 300chf. Once you have saved the deposit you can cancel the agreement with swisscaution.
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Which town?
I am talking about WIL SG
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Re: Backing off from signing housing rental agreement

Just remember that when anyone says "the norm is", they mean "the norm is in my experience". For me two months is the norm and one month is not all that unusual.
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Re: Backing off from signing housing rental agreement

I know this particular case is Wil SG, and I quote the Zürich Mietverband, but I would have said that the deposit rules are national. http://www.mieterverband.ch/zh_mb_mietzinsdepot.0.html which translated basically says "for apartments, may charge up to 3 months rent". As someone pointed out, there is no "norm".

But something that puzzles me.
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I have been staying in the town for nearly 4 years and rented had gone through the same process 4 times because of my work permit status.
That's just nonsense. I was on yearly Bewilligung L's for 3 years before I got a B, and I didn't need to change apartment.
Perhaps the new landlord knows that you changed 4 times and considers you a higher risk?

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