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Proof that my kitchen equipment is working...

I am moving out from my apartment and I just got a letter from my landlord saying that I need a proof from a professional company that they have checked my stove/oven, dishwasher and refrigerator is working.

Today I took out some food from my refrigerator and it was cold and with this I used my stove and oven to make dinner and afterward I put the dishes in the dishwasher and after an hour it came out clean. To me this is proof enough. I could put 5 min to show them that the stuff is working.

Is this normal in Switzerland? Who should I contact for a check like this? How much would it cost me?

Maybe someone should take a dump in my toilet and sign a paper that it went fine too?
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Old 27.05.2011, 00:31
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Re: Proof that my kitchen equipment is working...

Sometimes there is a clause in your contract, if there is you have to pay up.
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Old 27.05.2011, 00:42
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I am moving out from my apartment and I just got a letter from my landlord saying that I need a proof from a professional company that they have checked my stove/oven, dishwasher and refrigerator is working.

Today I took out some food from my refrigerator and it was cold and with this I used my stove and oven to make dinner and afterward I put the dishes in the dishwasher and after an hour it came out clean. To me this is proof enough. I could put 5 min to show them that the stuff is working.

Is this normal in Switzerland? Who should I contact for a check like this? How much would it cost me?

Maybe someone should take a dump in my toilet and sign a paper that it went fine too?
Just read your contract and see if this clause is in there. If you think it is in there, post the clause here and I will advise you further.

Please note that dumping engineers can be expensive, and they usually sign their signature on toilet paper so you need to watch out for that scam.
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Re: Proof that my kitchen equipment is working...

It should be under this section i guess but I don´t see it in there but also my German is not that good yet:

Rückgabe des Mietobjektes
Am Ende der Mietzeit oder bei einem vorzeitigen Auszug des Mieters, ist das Mietobjekt, spätestens am Tage des Auszuges, gründlich gereinigt abzugeben, soweit die Parteien nichts anderes vereinbaren oder vereinbart haben. Die Behebung allfälliger durch den Mieter verursachten Beschädigungen am Mietobjekt oder an der Liegenschaft ist bis zum Auszugstage vom Mieter vorzunehmen. Kommt der Mieter seinen Verpflich- tungen zur Mängelbehebung nicht nach, so ist der Vermieter berechtigt, die Beschädigungen auf Kosten des Mieters beheben zu lassen; ausserdem kann der Vermieter für Umtriebe, die sich der Mieter erspart hat, eine Entschädigung beanspruchen.
Die Fensterläden und Lamellenstoren sind zu reinigen. Unsachgemäss ausgeführte Arbeiten werden vom Vermieter abgelehnt. Wird das Mietobjekt nicht in gründlich gereinigtem Zustand abgegeben, so anerkennt der Mieter eine dem Auf- wand für die Nachreinigung entsprechende Nachbelastung zum derzeit gültigen Tarif.
Der Vermieter muss bei der Rückgabe den Zustand des Mietobjektes prüfen und Mängel, für die der Mieter einzustehen hat, diesem sofort melden. Der Vermieter muss später entdeckte Mängel, die bei übungsgemässer Untersuchung nicht erkennbar waren, ebenfalls sofort dem Mieter schriftlich melden.
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It should be under this section i guess but I don´t see it in there but also my German is not that good yet:

Rückgabe des Mietobjektes
Am Ende der Mietzeit oder bei einem vorzeitigen Auszug des Mieters, ist das Mietobjekt, spätestens am Tage des Auszuges, gründlich gereinigt abzugeben, soweit die Parteien nichts anderes vereinbaren oder vereinbart haben. Die Behebung allfälliger durch den Mieter verursachten Beschädigungen am Mietobjekt oder an der Liegenschaft ist bis zum Auszugstage vom Mieter vorzunehmen. Kommt der Mieter seinen Verpflich- tungen zur Mängelbehebung nicht nach, so ist der Vermieter berechtigt, die Beschädigungen auf Kosten des Mieters beheben zu lassen; ausserdem kann der Vermieter für Umtriebe, die sich der Mieter erspart hat, eine Entschädigung beanspruchen.
Die Fensterläden und Lamellenstoren sind zu reinigen. Unsachgemäss ausgeführte Arbeiten werden vom Vermieter abgelehnt. Wird das Mietobjekt nicht in gründlich gereinigtem Zustand abgegeben, so anerkennt der Mieter eine dem Auf- wand für die Nachreinigung entsprechende Nachbelastung zum derzeit gültigen Tarif.
Der Vermieter muss bei der Rückgabe den Zustand des Mietobjektes prüfen und Mängel, für die der Mieter einzustehen hat, diesem sofort melden. Der Vermieter muss später entdeckte Mängel, die bei übungsgemässer Untersuchung nicht erkennbar waren, ebenfalls sofort dem Mieter schriftlich melden.
The part of the clause that you are referring to is not specifically mentioned here. You could ask a German-speaking friend to read the remainder of the contract, or write quickly to the landlord and ask him which specific clause he is referring to - you will need to write in German, so get a friend to write it for you. You could get the friend to phone, but writing is better so that you have proof in the event of a dispute.

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Re: Proof that my kitchen equipment is working...

Thanks for the information. Maybe I should just ask my colleague at work which is an electronic engineer to write the report. If I start to argue they might charge me for every little thing they can find in the apartment when I have moved out.
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Re: Proof that my kitchen equipment is working...

Agreed, there is nothing unusual there. Nothing about testing by an independant technician, or proof from a professional company that they have checked your stove/oven, dishwasher and refrigerator are working. If landlord wants that he can pay for it.

You have to leave everything clean and working, including the blinds, - hire a steam cleaner! Join the Mieterverband.
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Re: Proof that my kitchen equipment is working...

Appliance certification is not uncommon, and is normally in the contract somewhere. They are normally in the dossier with the manuals, copy of the protocol etc, so check that to see if you had them when you moved in. It is dependant on the age of the appliance though, IIRC less than 5 years old you need them certified.

I had a clients inspection halted as they didn't have the certificates on a 2 year old apartment, and another inspection would not be allowed without them. It's not expensive and should be done by an authorised repair agent (not a mate whose handy with a screwdriver), and you landlord/agent should be able to provide a contact.... if you need them.
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