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How to replace a fuse

Hi,

Can someone please tell me how to replace a fuse/circuit breaker here in Switzerland?

I was vacuuming this evening and pulled the plug to the sound of an almighty pop, a good solid flash and sudden darkness. I looked up in the fuse box and the corresponding circuit breaker had tripped - however, when I switched it back to normal, the power did not come back on. There are four-to-six circuit-breakers up there, and it seems like they are independently mounted. However, no amount of tugging and pulling is able to get the thing out. Am I doing something wrong?

Can post a picture of the fuse box if it helps.

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Old 08.06.2011, 23:31
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Sorry Mark, I cannot advise you as to how to replace a fuse but I am so glad that you are not a blonde female
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I looked up in the fuse box and the corresponding circuit breaker had tripped - however, when I switched it back to normal, the power did not come back on.
Well, first off, either you have fuses or you have circuit breakers but you don't have both. I suspect you have circuit breakers which means after you check the circuit breaker then you have to look for (in German) a button/switch called Fehlerstrom-Schutzschalter and turn that back on. Power should return at that point.
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Old 08.06.2011, 23:38
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Can someone please tell me how to replace a fuse/circuit breaker here in Switzerland?
How do you replace a fuse/circuit breaker here in Switzerland?

Why, isn't it obvious? You call an electrician.

Likewise, if you puncture your bicycle tyre, you take the bike to the repair shop.

HTH

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Re: How to replace a fuse

If you had managed to find the fuse box, then, open and take out the fuse. Go to the nearest Migros/Coop to buy a box.
Replace with the new one and keep the remaining in the box next to the fuse box for a later handy use!
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Re: How to replace a fuse

The picture below shows the box - its the "circuit breaker" at farthest right that is blown (the one that is down). Unfortunately pushing the switch to the "up" position does not restore the power, so I'm guessing that it needs to be replaced. The problem is that I can't actually remove it from the box - it wiggles around a bit when I try to put it directly out, but otherwise just sits fast. Is there anything special I should do, or is it just a case of needing more force??

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Well, first off, either you have fuses or you have circuit breakers but you don't have both. I suspect you have circuit breakers which means after you check the circuit breaker then you have to look for (in German) a button/switch called Fehlerstrom-Schutzschalter and turn that back on. Power should return at that point.
This sound right.

Probably better to ask your neighbour, since they must have come across the same problem and have the same electrical fittings.

If you can't speak German, just point a lot and say "Licht ???"....and await their reaction...
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Is there anything special I should do, or is it just a case of needing more force??
If it doesn't stay on when you lift it back up then you need to do as I said in my previous post. Unfortunately in your photo I don't see the button/switch that I mentioned, maybe it's outside of your apartment somewhere..?

Are you in a full blown apartment or is this just a small (kitchen less) apartment..? I don't even see a heavy duty switch for the oven.
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Re: How to replace a fuse

The switch stays in the up position when I flick it back up - however, the power in that part of the house does not come back.....
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Old 08.06.2011, 23:57
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Oh, on second look how about that yellow thing between the red and grey stickers..? That could be the Fehlerstrom switch, try pushing it upwards.
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Re: How to replace a fuse

The "thing between the red and black stickers" is another one of the yellow pieces that you see further to the right - its just that this one is partly broken off. The yellow pieces move upwards, but not particularly far - it seems that they get stuck half way. I'm not quite sure of their function either - my intial guess was that they were locking mechanisms, but I can't seem to move them far enough to unlock anything.

It's a 2.5 room apartment - the oven and boiler are on the two left-hand circuit breakers, but we have a switch in the kitchen that allows us to switch between them - we clearly don't have enough grunt in the place to run both at once!
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Re: How to replace a fuse

Sorry to break it to you harsh, but you will need to call an electrician
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The "thing between the red and black stickers" is another one of the yellow pieces that you see further to the right - its just that this one is partly broken off. The yellow pieces move upwards, but not particularly far - it seems that they get stuck half way. I'm not quite sure of their function either - my intial guess was that they were locking mechanisms, but I can't seem to move them far enough to unlock anything.
Maybe it needs to be pushed (or pulled?) while being flipped..?
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Re: How to replace a fuse

No, I'm afraid its time for an electrician - I opened the screws on the righthand side, and it's not simply a case of just pulling the old breaker out and replacing it, unfortunately - it is screwed in place, with lots of live wires around the place. That was about the point where I decided it was beyond me.....
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Maybe it needs to be pushed (or pulled?) while being flipped..?
I am sorry, (and with all due respect to the OP), but that has to be the post of the day!!
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Old 09.06.2011, 00:25
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Re: How to replace a fuse

Legally you are definitely NOT allowed to repair this box of SAFETY circuit breakers!

Ask your landlord, or caretaker to come and look at it. You need an electrician. These circuit breakers almost NEVER fail.

Have you considered that by pulling out the vacuum cleaner cable you damaged the wall socket? This damaged socket is probably what is stopping the safety circuit breaker from restoring power. Because it is unsafe maybe?
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I am sorry, (and with all due respect to the OP), but that has to be the post of the day!!
My money is still on that switch (Fehlerstromschalter), circuit breakers rarely "wear out" (you'll never hear that from an electrician).

OR... whatever electrical disturbance that caused the breaker to pop in the first place is still broken and not allowing the breaker to be reset.
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Old 09.06.2011, 00:42
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OR... whatever electrical disturbance that caused the breaker to pop in the first place is still broken and not allowing the breaker to be reset.
That's my guess. So electrician it is- but for curiosity's sake could you post a pic of the guilty socket? Was the flash internal to the socket?
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Re: How to replace a fuse

i had something similar. found out that by flipping the things in the right order, i could make the switch stick.

also, there was a fuse downstairs in the basement which also blew and had to be replaced.
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Old 09.06.2011, 00:54
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Re: How to replace a fuse

Do you happen to own a multimeter..? I could talk you through a few safe tests to see what the problem is. If so, PM me.
p.s. - I'm an electrician
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