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Need a bathroom sink.... And lights

For my new bathroom.....we are in a bit of a rush, and can't wait for a 10 week delivery!

Has anyone seen any nice sinks in any store in ZH or surrounding area that may be x display? I have been to hornbach and fust in jelmoli, also the website...but I admittedly have been lazy and taking a time out! But it has to be bought this week! I have about 1.5m space, and decided I prefer a single to a double...more space for my toiletries!

Any feedback would be appreciated!

Also, anyone heard of Kare design in dubendorf? Has anyone been to the store? Is it worth visiting?
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For my new bathroom.....we are in a bit of a rush, and can't wait for a 10 week delivery!

Has anyone seen any nice sinks in any store in ZH or surrounding area that may be x display? I have been to hornbach and fust in jelmoli, also the website...but I admittedly have been lazy and taking a time out! But it has to be bought this week! I have about 1.5m space, and decided I prefer a single to a double...more space for my toiletries!

Any feedback would be appreciated!

Also, anyone heard of Kare design in dubendorf? Has anyone been to the store? Is it worth visiting?
hmm. i hadn't thought of delivery times. i just through i could pick something up at a specialist store. maybe in germany if not available in switzerland.
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Old 13.06.2011, 13:33
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Re: Need a bathroom sink.... And lights

How about Ikea?
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Re: Need a bathroom sink.... And lights

What about Bauhaus.

In the Bern store they have a very big bathroom dept. - the same should be true of the Zurich one.
Most items are off the shelf - and even if out of stock of the one you want, it is usually there the next week (as in a bathroom cabinet I bought recently).
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hmm. i hadn't thought of delivery times. i just through i could pick something up at a specialist store. maybe in germany if not available in switzerland.
A lot of showrooms won't let you buy or order anything yourselves. You have to get a tradesman to order and fit it for you.

This is a real pain (and expense) if you just want a replacement part that you could easily fit yourself.

One of the reasons for this is the manufacturers insist on this so their products get fitted properly and thus function properly.
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A lot of showrooms won't let you buy or order anything yourselves. You have to get a tradesman to order and fit it for you.

This is a real pain (and expense) if you just want a replacement part that you could easily fit yourself.

One of the reasons for this is the manufacturers insist on this so their products get fitted properly and thus function properly.
..... but also introduces a sometimes unneeded middle man just to share in the wealth and keep prices high - which is what Hr. u. Fr. Swissie are used to ....

Thank God for the rest of us, that there are the likes of Jumbo, Ikea and Bauhaus.
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A lot of showrooms won't let you buy or order anything yourselves. You have to get a tradesman to order and fit it for you.

This is a real pain (and expense) if you just want a replacement part that you could easily fit yourself.

One of the reasons for this is the manufacturers insist on this so their products get fitted properly and thus function properly.
strange. when i installed a new bathroom in the UK, i bought everything myself and told the plumber what i wanted and he just went ahead and did it. in the end, the only thing he provided was the labour and a steel bath.
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strange. when i installed a new bathroom in the UK, i bought everything myself and told the plumber what i wanted and he just went ahead and did it. in the end, the only thing he provided was the labour and a steel bath.
That's the U.K.
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strange. when i installed a new bathroom in the UK, i bought everything myself and told the plumber what i wanted and he just went ahead and did it. in the end, the only thing he provided was the labour and a steel bath.
You could possibly do the same here - if you found a willing plumber; but the normal scheme of things is that the plumber whom you use, has his preferred trade supplier(s), with whom he has already set up an account (credit checks, payment leatime, etc.), and uses their equipment in his estimate offer.
The customer is then invited to the supplier to view and amend the fittings as required, which are then charged to the plumber's account and subsequently passed on to the customer's bill - with or without an appropriate mark-up.

The "normal" Swiss way - good quality, but top prices!
Everyone's happy (i.e. the tradesmen) - apart from the one holding the cheque book.

We've just followed this procedure for 2 bathrooms, but rejected one of the bog-standard, typical Swiss mirror cabinet for 400+ chufs (for the downstairs shower room), and replaced it with a more practical, nicer one from Bauhaus for 180 chufs.
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We've just followed this procedure for 2 bathrooms, but rejected one of the bog-standard, typical Swiss mirror cabinet for 400+ chufs (for the downstairs shower room), and replaced it with a more practical, nicer one from Bauhaus for 180 chufs.
We did the same thing in one of our bathrooms. We ignored the quoted 1500CHF for a hand-built, but white MDF bathroom cabinet and got a similar looking one from IKEA for 80CHF!
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Re: Need a bathroom sink.... And lights

We ordered a bath through these guys in Germany http://www.reuter-badshop.com/index.php it arrived in 6 days, but it was in stock. 1500Chuffs delivered (best offer here for a Gmbh was 2700, 4000 retail). Helpful english speaking telephone staff, good range of products.
www.keramikland.ch in the middle of nowhere has a great range of tiles, prices are good, they will hagle a bit on price for a decent quantity. There bathroom displays are worth the drive anyway.
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We ordered a bath through these guys in Germany http://www.reuter-badshop.com/index.php it arrived in 6 days, but it was in stock.
I've ordered a bathroom sink through reuter-badshop too. Very easy and less than half the Swiss price for the same sink. It took 2 weeks for delivery.
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Re: Need a bathroom sink.... And lights

Get thee to Hornbach!

I did the whole Swiss-monopoly-order-through-the-tradesman-at-insane-prices thing when I renovated my house, as no other options existed if one wanted somewhat better quality than what one could find at Coop B/H. And I do mean insane prices:

Soapdish - 200 Chuffs.
Mirror - 2500 Chuffs
WC paper holder - 600 Chuffs
Shower fixture - you don't even want to know...



The same brand, exact same quality is now available at Hornbach at a tiny fraction of the price.

Better yet, go to Hornbach over the border...

Seriously - none of this stuff is Swiss-made, there is no 'quality premium' in going through the typical Swiss Sanitär firms - infact quite a bit of the stuff I saw in such places was of lesser quality. Yes, they may offer you a cup of coffee at the showroom - but does that reallly justify the crazy prices?
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Seriously - none of this stuff is Swiss-made, there is no 'quality premium' in going through the typical Swiss Sanitär firms - infact quite a bit of the stuff I saw in such places was of lesser quality. Yes, they may offer you a cup of coffee at the showroom - but does that reallly justify the crazy prices?
But they have to pay for their nice prime location showroom with all its redundant stock and all those nice people that walk about officiously, when you visit them, somehow.
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Re: Need a bathroom sink.... And lights

Thx for all the advice,i bought loads of stuff from Hornbach, and went to bauhaus yesterday....waited 15 mins at the sanitair counter.....no one ....so took my brochures home, and let's see their delivery times!

I looked up the 2 suggested sites - keramic and Bathroom store, loved the stuff, just need to call and get delivery times, then I am done with bathrooms!

Thanks everyone!
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Re: Need a bathroom sink.... And lights

Thanks for all the great info in these posts.

I am renovating an apartment in Ticino in a 500-year old building. I don't want a modern kitchen and bath, but something rather more rustic (ie painted wood rather than MDF cabinets).

Any hints on where to find a rustic look in CH where ultramodern seems to be the only available style?

I am seeing nice stuff from Italy at much better prices than in CH - is it allowed to hire foreign workers to do the installation?
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If you want rustic then recycled wood (alteholz) is another option, I have just done my bathroom ceiling with it, it looks great I can email you some pictures if you like. I used a new product of remanufactured old wood made into plywood or plates, not cheap at Chf100 to 200 m2 but it would be possible for me to make some doors for kitchen cuboards if the old kitchen is ok but just looks bad. See www.noonwoodwork.com it will give you some idea of the rustic finish I normally use on my furniture.
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Re: Need a bathroom sink.... And lights

at these prices, i'm considering doing the work myself! not really done much plumbing other than fixing a few broken pipes and boilers, but shouldn't be rocket science, right?

i'm sure there must be some law about this being totally, illegal though...
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If you want rustic then recycled wood (alteholz) is another option, I have just done my bathroom ceiling with it, it looks great I can email you some pictures if you like. I used a new product of remanufactured old wood made into plywood or plates, not cheap at Chf100 to 200 m2 but it would be possible for me to make some doors for kitchen cuboards if the old kitchen is ok but just looks bad. See www.noonwoodwork.com it will give you some idea of the rustic finish I normally use on my furniture.
thanks RTN for the suggestion and your website! I am looking for a whole new kitchen - it needs a major do-over so I will need the whole package
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