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I'm moving flat and the walls need to be painted. I asked my rental agency (Kornhaus Verwaltungs) if they would do it anyway and they said yes but were annoyingly vague about how much it would cost.
Can anyone tell me roughly how much they might charge me to paint one room? I just don't want to get ripped off be them...Or is it better to get someone in beforehand to do it (unfortunately I don't have time to do it myself).

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Hi,

I'm moving flat and the walls need to be painted. I asked my rental agency (Kornhaus Verwaltungs) if they would do it anyway and they said yes but were annoyingly vague about how much it would cost.
Can anyone tell me roughly how much they might charge me to paint one room? I just don't want to get ripped off be them...Or is it better to get someone in beforehand to do it (unfortunately I don't have time to do it myself).

Thanks!
Why dont you ask them for a specific quote, or rather call up a local Painter and ask for a quote for a X square metre room. How can you expect advise, when you dont provide improtant info, like HOW BIG IS THE ROOM??......

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But the rental agency knows how big the flats are which they are renting! I'm sure its not the first time they have painted their own flats. I just needed to know if getting it done through the agency is likely to be more expensive than getting it done privately.
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But the rental agency knows how big the flats are which they are renting! I'm sure its not the first time they have painted their own flats. I just needed to know if getting it done through the agency is likely to be more expensive than getting it done privately.
Don't be silly!

without looking they won't really know if it's 1 coat or 2 if any filling/patching needs to be done, and you expect them to actually know the room size If you want to know what it will cost then you will need to get them (or a painter) in.... simples
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There won't be much difference in prices. It will be expensive!
Small bedroom at least SFr 600,--

Why are you painting the walls? Is paint more than 10 years old?
Search the Forum for more information!

However if you advertise on Coop and Migros notice boards
for someone, you will get it much cheaper.
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Why are you painting the walls? Is paint more than 10 years old?
Search the Forum for more information!

However if you advertise on Coop and Migros notice boards
for someone, you will get it much cheaper.
Ok, thanks, will do a bit more searching.

It's my own fault that I have to paint, the previous tennant had painted the walls non-white and I kept them like that as it was nicer to have a bit of colour in the the room. But now they need to go back to white.
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surely your agency has a preferred painting folks, and will charge you absolutely out of the blue... as advised above, morgos / coop boards might be best price options
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I know Kornhaus Verwaltungs. They will charge you as much as they can, especially if you dont speak german and cant argue with them...
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Hi,

I'm moving flat and the walls need to be painted. I asked my rental agency (Kornhaus Verwaltungs) if they would do it anyway and they said yes but were annoyingly vague about how much it would cost.
Can anyone tell me roughly how much they might charge me to paint one room? I just don't want to get ripped off be them...Or is it better to get someone in beforehand to do it (unfortunately I don't have time to do it myself).

Thanks!
Have had very good experience with Kornhaus. If I were you, I would call or email them (in English is fine) and asked which agency they use for paintint. Then you can get a quote for these folks and will have an idea of the costs. Alternatively, you can get quotes from other places too, of course.
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Old 01.07.2011, 12:39
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Re: Painting costs

The price may also depend on how dark the color is that will need to be painted over (how many coats of paint it will take). In the US, there is something called "primer," which is an extremely thick white paint that is used to cover darker paint, but I've looked high and low for something like that here and sadly haven't been able to find it. (Anyone know???)

So I know you wrote that you don't have time to paint it yourself, but unless the room is ridiculously large, you probably could do it yourself in one day -- especially in this weather, where the paint would dry quickly, and especially if it won't take more than two coats of paint.

If I wasn't 5+ months pregnant, I'd provide you with a quote myself. But I actually do remember once seeing a van here that said something like it belonged to a company consisting of student painters. So maybe you could get a good quote from something like that, rather than a more formal professional company.

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I know Kornhaus Verwaltungs. They will charge you as much as they can, especially if you dont speak german and cant argue with them...
If you were not allowed to paint in the first place without asking permission, which is often a standard clause in a rental contract, and if you did not use the correct paint given what the walls may have already been painted with, things could start to get very expensive.

There are ways to add colour without painting the walls.
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The price may also depend on how dark the color is that will need to be painted over (how many coats of paint it will take). In the US, there is something called "primer," which is an extremely thick white paint that is used to cover darker paint, but I've looked high and low for something like that here and sadly haven't been able to find it. (Anyone know???)
Look for Grundierung, Vorstreichfarbe, Sperrgrund, or Nikotinsperre. Grundierung is the general term for all kinds of primer. Nikotinsperre is a special primer designed to cover smoke stains and nicotine smell.
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Look for Grundierung, Vorstreichfarbe, Sperrgrund, or Nikotinsperre. Grundierung is the general term for all kinds of primer. Nikotinsperre is a special primer designed to cover smoke stains and nicotine smell.
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I actually had asked for "Grundierung" at both OBI and Coop Bau & Hobby, and the only thing they had was a liquid (rather than a thick paint). By chance do you know where I can buy some that IS like the really thick white paint?
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Any of the primers mentioned above are likely to be thin as they are designed to penetrate and/or seal a surface prior to top coating, whereas a thick paint would just sit on top. You can get a thick paint (sorry the name escapes me) but it's normally used to cover cracks and imperfection in the plasterwork. If the surface you want to paint is sound, you just need to cover a darker colour probably the closest you'll get is a one coat or mono-couche which is available from any of the DIY chain's, but due to the textured walls the Swissies love thicker paint tends not to save you any time as it just looks patchy and you end up 2nd coating anyway... also avoid the Jumbo stuff as it has the covering abilities of a thong
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Ok, thanks, will do a bit more searching.

It's my own fault that I have to paint, the previous tennant had painted the walls non-white and I kept them like that as it was nicer to have a bit of colour in the the room. But now they need to go back to white.

Hold on....If you took the apartment over with the walls that way, and the report reflects that, without saying you have to return them to white, why do you have to put them white? It is a question of what was agreed to at the handover. Assuming something from a previous tenant is always tricky. For example, a client put up a fence, the management wanted them to take it down, I argued for my client that it enhanced the value of the property (the fence was professionally installed) and would make the property more attractive to rent. The management was persuaded and agreed it could be left. If and when a new tenant arrives, they assume the fence, they don't have to take it out.
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I actually had asked for "Grundierung" at both OBI and Coop Bau & Hobby, and the only thing they had was a liquid (rather than a thick paint). By chance do you know where I can buy some that IS like the really thick white paint?
Coop. http://www.colodur.ch/index.php?page...te&params=5,29 Fortunately, never had to use it. Perhaps you have to open the bucket in store and take a sniff, at least the US stuff has a quite distinguish smell.

Or go and ask these guys: http://www.bosshard-farben.ch
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If you were not allowed to paint in the first place without asking permission, which is often a standard clause in a rental contract, and if you did not use the correct paint given what the walls may have already been painted with, things could start to get very expensive.

There are ways to add colour without painting the walls.
In our case, we did not even paint any wall, but after living there for a while, there were some stains on the walls... Nothing important, but still, they considered the whole appartment needed to be paint.

Speaking english with them? To rent the appartment yes, but to communicate with them after you move out, forget that. I guess it depends on who's on charge of the building...

By the way, I would suggest anyone living in Switzerland to suscribe to Asloca. They might be helpful.
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Just thought I should give an update.

In the end a friend told me that Coop Bau+Hobby was having a sale on paint and paint brushes/rollers so I could get some decent enough paint for almost half price and decided to do it myself. Two coats of paint was enough to cover the dark paint. The flat handover was the end of July and there were no problems and I now have my full deposit back.
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Hooray for a bit of common sense!

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