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Old 08.07.2011, 22:57
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Re: Please help me pick the place to live (Zug area)

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You're not gonna find a 5.5 with good views for CHF3100.- so you either need to increase your budget or lower your expectations (i.e. no views).

For good connectivity to the airport, I would recommend villages/towns not too far from train stations, There are two main lines:

Fast line from Zug to Zuerich you can either change at Thalwil, or in Zuerich to get to the airport which should take around 60 - 90 minutes. If you opt for this option, any part of zug should be good as there are good connections (Baar 5 mins by train, Cham 10 mins, Rotkreuz 15 mins, Walchwil 15-20mins).
Slow Train S9: To catch the morning flight you have to take the first train and change in Alstetten if I remember correctly. The train stops at Steinhausen so this is another option for you, then you're in the gemindes of Zuerich which have a slightly higher tax but I don't think you should worry too much about the tax as the difference is negligible considering all the other factors. So any other stop on that line could potentially work but there is no international community so you're kind on your own.
As others suggested Thalwil is also a middle option with potentially lower prices than zug for bigger appartments.

I would recommend Baar, Cham, Steinhausen (in no particular order) for something that meets your budget (no views). Walchwil for views but probably out of your budget. Thalwil for the inbetweener. and for wildcards I would say Knonau or Afflotern am Albis.

I'm not too keen on Rotkreuz but that's just me as I believe it's suited for people working in Luzern rather than people wanting to have a good connection to Zuerich. But it could work in principle.

I would also avoid the Aegerie's, it's a bit of a treck to get to zug and even more of a hassle to get to zuerich, and your social life will be restricted to the last bus/train back.
Whilst I'm very happy to avoid any further competition in the housing market, I don't agree that its a trek to Zug from Aegeri valley. It depends upon what one is used to for travel and transport. (I know several people who cycle down and UP everyday - nutters) However, I agree with the rest - Thalwil and A am Albis very good options, and maybe better when hubby is coming into Zurich every friday night than being up the hill in Aegeri. Rotkreuz I'm not such a fan of either, but plenty folk go for it because you do get more for your money.

It depends what's important to you, and I feel this is a good compromise for me to have a little bit further to go from Zurich or Zug, but I reckon I've got a slice of the good life overall. It takes me 15 mins top door to door from Unteraegeri to Zug (that's by car, add 5 mins extra for regular bus as opposed to Schnellbus). I think that's pretty good, and a lovely scenic route, with frequent buses should I need to party.

It is darned expensive though, but I love having all those meadows, forest, a clean lake (!) and fab local butcher, decent size Co-op etc. Zuerich takes 30 mins, another 10 to the airport which I use regularly. And we're above the Spring and Fall fog, but gets heaps of snow in the winter which I love!!

I don't feel I'm missing out on the nightlife - and OP has kids plus work I don't reckon that'll be a huge issue anyway. There's tons to do around Zug. The whole area has a good mix of expats and locals too. Cham, Baar, Steinhausen have a lot more choice than up here (and lots of new build apartments avail), but now that I've lived here I wouldn't go back down, except maybe to Cham or Kussnacht.

And if you find the right pad there are plenty here with lovely views. I think it can be done......but you might have to sit tight and move fast when the right one is available, and accept something that isn't so shiny new as you might like.

Good luck!
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Re: Please help me pick the place to live (Zug area)

According to today's Amtsblatt- there are (11) 5.5 room apartments, of which 2 fall into your price range and of those 2 one is in Baar, the other in Hunenberg which has no direct train connection.

Hate to say it, but you're better off looking into Thawil or somewhere along that side of Lake Zurich.
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Re: Please help me pick the place to live (Zug area)

Have you done a search on www.comparis.ch ? If you are not familiar with this site there is an English language option, go to Property, you can do an advanced search within 20 kilometres of your desired location. Your best value with easy connection to the direct train from Zug to the airport will be Arth/Goldau, I noticed plenty of new builds coming available in October as well as some nachmieter (follow-on tenant) ads. This site also offers a tax comparison option which I know is important to you. The only problem, and you will find this on most internet property sites, is that ads are not removed as soon as the property is unavailable, leading to a lot of frustration. Because you are at the lower end of the price bracket you will find strong competition and sometimes you just have to take what you can get, allow plenty of time for on the ground searching and be prepared with all your information and references so you will be in a position to take it on the spot. Do you have anyone helping you with relocation - there are plenty of them in Zug, do a search here to find recommended companies, or your employer may know someone? Make yourself aware of standard lease terms here, they are different to UK. Will you need to consider proximity to schools for your children?
Good luck, I hope you find somewhere beautiful.
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Re: Please help me pick the place to live (Zug area)

Welcome to one of the most difficult tasks that you will undertake! I have just gone through it. I chose Walchwil as it ticked all my boxes. Don't waste your time on Walchwil, though, as you will not find 4 bedrooms on your budget. (3 at a squeeze) I looked at a flat in Brunnen as well, but the station and surrounding area is not great. Also don't get too obsessed with tax saving in Zug as the premium in property often negates the tax saving. Thalwil is close to Zug and Zurich and property prices are more competitive.

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Re: Please help me pick the place to live (Zug area)

Thank you everyone! I will have a relocation company helping me in all aspects. A friend of mine relocated recently and she said they are quite good and will do everything from hose search to connecting you to internet and phone in your new place:-)

Will look into Thalil and Steinhausen!
My older one will be going to a nursery once a week in Baar but other then that connection to airport is still the most important constrain for the location...
Oh, and I only can afford Swisscaution:-) I know, I am a dreamer:-) probably will house my kids in a temp accomodation and then end up taking the first best place because so desperate:-)
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