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Old 29.07.2011, 09:58
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Move-out cleaning - roller blinds and oven

Hi there,
I'm moving out of my apartment in a couple of days and thought it best to use a cleaning agency recommended by the property management company to avoid future complications.

It's a 2 room place + bad/WC + kitchen. Just the usual.

The guy came over this morning. He said his normal charges are CHF 900 for a place like this but he says doing the blinds (which have been neglected for a year or so) and the oven (has some grease but nothing terrible) will take an additional CHF 300. He says it takes 1 man around 4 hours to clean the blinds. Seemed a bit too high for me.

What do you guys think?

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Old 29.07.2011, 10:13
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Re: Move-out cleaning - specific question

Does seem a bit high IMHO, CHF 1200 in total for 2 room apartment - I've moved 3 times in recent years, and in my experience the blinds and oven are usually included as standard.

I've paid between CHF 800-1100 each time for 2.5-3.5 room apartments of varying m2, but have always shopped around for a good quote. Quotes from some cleaning companies have been sky high (CHF 1500+) so it does pay to shop around.

Sometimes it's been one guy spending a whole day (or more) cleaning alone, sometimes it's been 2 people cleaning for 4-5 hours - just depends how the company operates.

Two things I'd suggest are important when employing someone to end clean your apartment:

1. Get an itemised list of what is included in the price so there are no surprises when they say "oh no, that's not included" - I believe from my dealings with the Mieterverband it's usually pretty standard what is and should be included, and what is generally expected by a legit landlord/agency, but it's best to be sure. Also check your contract to make sure there's no special requirements (e.g. if a patio area has to be high-pressure washed).

2. ALWAYS get the handover guarantee included in the price, so the cleaner is present at the handover and has to fix anything deemed not up to scratch by the agency or new tenant.

If in doubt, you can ask someone from the Mieterverband to be present at the handover to make sure the agency/landlord play by the rules. (We've done this once when we didn't quite trust the agency, but it also had the disadvantage that the guy liked the sound of his voice a bit too much and spent more time advocating for the agency when the new tenants insisted the place should be repainted - not what we were paying him for! )
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Re: Move-out cleaning - specific question

We were charged about 1200 CHF for a 4.5 room, which included oven, blinds etc. so your quote sounds a little high.
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Re: Move-out cleaning - specific question

It depends what you mean by 'blinds'.

If it's the metal roller shutters which come down outside the window they are an absolute nightmare to clean. (Been there....done that and definitely don't want to do it again!) All the tracking is probably clogged up with dust grease, dead spiders etc. etc.
It doesn't matter how well you think you've cleaned them it probably won't be good enough for the inspection. I spent literally hours doing ours for our moving out. As soon as I got the shutters done I realised that by cleaning them I'd dirtied the windows behind them so had to re-clean them, and by the time I'd done that I managed to re-dirty the shutters. talk about a viscious circle.......
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We were charged about 1200 CHF for a 4.5 room, which included oven, blinds etc. so your quote sounds a little high.
Who did this for you?
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It depends what you mean by 'blinds'.

If it's the metal roller shutters which come down outside the window they are an absolute nightmare to clean. (Been there....done that and definitely don't want to do it again!) All the tracking is probably clogged up with dust grease, dead spiders etc. etc.
It doesn't matter how well you think you've cleaned them it probably won't be good enough for the inspection. I spent literally hours doing ours for our moving out. As soon as I got the shutters done I realised that by cleaning them I'd dirtied the windows behind them so had to re-clean them, and by the time I'd done that I managed to re-dirty the shutters. talk about a viscious circle.......
Yes, it's the metal roller shutters outside the window. It's probably not easy but it's mostly dust there. No dead spiders for sure.
How did you dirty the windows behind themif they were outside in the first place.
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Re: Move-out cleaning - specific question

It's easily done (well I had NO problem doing it anyway lol!) The inside of the shutters have to be cleaned too.....the part you see from inside the room when the shutters are closed and trying to clean them from inside isn't easy, even with the windows open.
I borrowed a friend's steam cleaner, which did a good job (not good enough unfortunately), but tended to spread water around at the same time.

I hope you get yours done at a decent price.
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It's easily done (well I had NO problem doing it anyway lol!) The inside of the shutters have to be cleaned too.....the part you see from inside the room when the shutters are closed and trying to clean them from inside isn't easy, even with the windows open.
I borrowed a friend's steam cleaner, which did a good job (not good enough unfortunately), but tended to spread water around at the same time.

I hope you get yours done at a decent price.
Apparently you are exhibit masculine traits in certain specific areas. I thought women are super good at cleaning blinds and stuff like that. Men being awesome at other DIY stuff like assembling/dismantling furniture, setting up stuff for women to clean etc.
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Re: Move-out cleaning - roller blinds and oven

Are you responsible for cleaning the outside window and blinds too? Actually these were left in a pretty bad state when I moved in and I wouldn't look forward to having to clean them as well!
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Apparently you are exhibit masculine traits in certain specific areas. I thought women are super good at cleaning blinds and stuff like that. Men being awesome at other DIY stuff like assembling/dismantling furniture, setting up stuff for women to clean etc.
Who's been brainwashing you ? Give me a flat pack over cleaning ANY day!
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Are you responsible for cleaning the outside window and blinds too? Actually these were left in a pretty bad state when I moved in and I wouldn't look forward to having to clean them as well!
Well, I'm only obliged to do a proper cleaning. There are no outside windows (that I'm aware of). The windows are on the inside and the blinds on the outside.
Apparently the blinds are part of the deal for anyone here.
They're a challenge but I real don't think it costs CHF 300 just for them.
I mean a pro with the right equipment and method could probably tackle 4 of them in under 2 hours - easily.

I'm using Kaylan Umzug - they're charging CHF 750 + guarantee for the whole job no exceptions. Putzfrauenvermittlung.ch also does the same at the same price. I've also got some private messages with even better deals so let me know if you need a contact.

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Who's been brainwashing you ? Give me a flat pack over cleaning ANY day!
Brainwashed? Isn't it a natural law or something like that?
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