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Stayed out late tonight. Nothing had been moved in the apartment suggesting no visitor had been here. Is she playing mind games with me or am I completely paranoid?
This is really silly. You are paying the rent, It is your appartment, Why should you stay away' whoever this woman is and she sounds like a Blackpool 1960's landlady,, you really need rid of her but do not leave without your deposit!
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Re: Problems with Landlady over Apartment Cleanliness

Your landlady is being toatally unprofessional in her treatment of you, her tenant. She has no right to clean, or even touch, anything in your apartment. If there is any agreement for her to come in with 24 hours notice because of things she has stored there, (Ugh! my pet hate has been the couple of landlords I had i the past, who haad left personal things in the apartment) then you have the right to provide a time when you will be home to let her into the apartment. You also have the right to be there when she is showing the apartment to anyone else.

As a landlord myself, I have once had a tenant who had an apartment looking like an overcrowded, cluttered junk store. The sensible solution, which I took, was to wait until he had actually moved out, before I aranged for the apartment to be seen by anyone else. It is NOT my right to tell a tenant to tidy up.

You could store your shoes in the oven for all it should matter to the landlord.

Find out you exact rights, then be firm with her. And no, don't just let her keep your deposit - if she tries to, then ask to see the receipts for cleaning before agreeing for any payment. With regards to the broken shower door - it could be that your insurance will pay for that if you possibly contributed to the daage. If it was damaged before hand though, did you have it listed as such when you moved in? If so, I would argue that your landlady is responsible for the cost, not you.
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This is really silly. You are paying the rent, It is your appartment, Why should you stay away' whoever this woman is and she sounds like a Blackpool 1960's landlady,, you really need rid of her but do not leave without your deposit!
Don't worry, I was staying out late anyway!
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Stayed out late tonight. Nothing had been moved in the apartment suggesting no visitor had been here. Is she playing mind games with me or am I completely paranoid?
Just an update. I spoke too soon.

I realised in the middle of the night she had changed my bed sheet
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Just an update. I spoke too soon.

I realised in the middle of the night she had changed my bed sheet
While you were in it?
Did she tidy up your used Kleenex too?
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While you were in it?
Did she tidy up your used Kleenex too?
How did you know I have a cold?
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How did you know I have a cold?
Have you ever seen "The Truman Show"?
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I'm wondering if she has secret cameras set up to monitor my every move.
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Re: Problems with Landlady over Apartment Cleanliness

Maybe you should knock on her door with your trollies round your ankles and ask her to inspect your arse for cleanliness?
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Maybe you should knock on her door with your trollies round your ankles and ask her to inspect your arse for cleanliness?
Risky move, that one. I'm sure that this woman would have some personal hygiene tips to offer and demonstrate.
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Re: Problems with Landlady over Apartment Cleanliness

send her an e-mail with a link to this thread. And why is she changing your bed sheets? How did she even know where the clean linens are? Is she snooping in your nightstand, too? Reading your diary? Programming your DVR????

WTF! She could at least do your laundry for you.
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send her an e-mail with a link to this thread. And why is she changing your bed sheets? How did she even know where the clean linens are? Is she snooping in your nightstand, too? Reading your diary? Programming your DVR????

WTF! She could at least do your laundry for you.
She knows where they are, because she put them there.

As for why? I guess she wanted bed to look perfect for future tenant. She's crazy. I'm preparing to make a midnight escape to avoid the handover. I'd rather lose the deposit than be stuck in the house with this lunatic doing an inspection.
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Well, it looks like you have paid lots of money only to be harassed, nagged, hounded, tormented and spied-on.. at least if you lived with your Mum, you wouldn't have had to pay
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Well, it looks like you have paid lots of money only to be harassed, nagged, hounded, tormented and spied-on.. at least if you lived with your Mum, you wouldn't have had to pay
....... not to mention the delicious home cooked meal


mmmmmmmm.... you should put in a request to the landlady

(and start calling her "Mum")
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Re: Problems with Landlady over Apartment Cleanliness

Ok, that is just way over creepy. Knowing someone is getting inside my flat would freak me out, but having some strange woman doing my bed... that would make me go berserk on her.

I hope you manage to get your deposit back. What she is doing to you is unbelievable.

I don't know how you are handling this so well! I envy your calm, sir!
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Ok, that is just way over creepy. Knowing someone is getting inside my flat would freak me out, but having some strange woman in my bed... that would make me go berserk on her.

I hope you manage to get your deposit back. What she is doing to you is unbelievable.

I don't know how you are handling this so well! I envy your calm, sir!
Fixed that for you
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Re: Problems with Landlady over Apartment Cleanliness

BTW, she is a fat 70 (ish) yr old spinster.

My strategy will be as follows.

- I will gradually move things out to my friend's place where I am staying for a few days.

- I will leave a couple of days ahead of the official handover,leaving keys behind.

- I will email her that I had to leave on urgent business and request full details of how to return what's left of my deposit and requesting a breakdown of what she is keeping.

- I will also tell her I have contacted the Mietverband regarding her behaviour.
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Old 17.08.2011, 12:22
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Re: Problems with Landlady over Apartment Cleanliness

Personally I think if you "run" or try and avoid confrontation, you are just giving her the impression that she is right and she will treat the next tennant exactly like she treated her.

I would suggest that you follow the advise here and get an MV membership backdated 3 months and get them to be there for the handover. Your complaints should be well documented so that everybody is aware of them.

Considder it a special gift for the next tennants so that they won't have to put up with this. She is an old woman, possibly set in her ways and needs an offical Swiss MV representative to set her back on the right path.
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Personally I think if you "run" or try and avoid confrontation, you are just giving her the impression that she is right and she will treat the next tennant exactly like she treated her.

I would suggest that you follow the advise here and get an MV membership backdated 3 months and get them to be there for the handover. Your complaints should be well documented so that everybody is aware of them.

Considder it a special gift for the next tennants so that they won't have to put up with this. She is an old woman, possibly set in her ways and needs an offical Swiss MV representative to set her back on the right path.
You are right of course and I do feel bad about her doing this with other tenants, however I've had a tough few months generally and I'm just sick of this whole thing.
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Old 17.08.2011, 17:42
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Re: Problems with Landlady over Apartment Cleanliness

How often is a landlord/ lady allowed to visit and inspect a place? Os ot only at the beginning and end of the tenancy? Or if the place has been rented long term (years) can they drop in once a year and ask to see the place? Do they have to announce their visit?
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