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End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

Hi everyone

can someone please explain to me or point me in the right direction of how the leasing system works .

How much notice does my Landlord need to give me if he is not going to renew my lease after the 3 year contract and how much notice do I have to give him if I am not going to renew the contract at the end of the agreement

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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

If you have a 3 year contract there is no notice required. You just clean the place thoroughly, handover the keys, pick up the deposit.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

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so we dont have to let him know we wont be extending then ?
But what about if we want to stay, (which we do) someone told me that they have to give you notice that they wont be extending to give you time to find somewhere new
but dont know how much notice or if this is true
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

I would review your contract just to be sure. We originally signed a two year lease, but I advised the landlord we would be extending another year. We have now been here 4.5 years and are leaving at the end of Sept. Our contract may have (not sure; can't read German) an automatic renewal. However, it clearly states the (3) dates we can leave which are fairly normal (April 30, June 30 & Sept. 30). If you choose to leave at any other time, you are responsible for finding a qualified replacement tenant. The contract also required a four month notice by registered mail. Be safe and let them know.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

Dont' be so sure you don't have to notify your landlord. Some contracts automatically renew. Read your contract.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

Hi,
Thought I would post this here since it is related. What if you give your apartment owner notice and then change your mind ? I guess it all depends on how kind the owner or reggie wants to be. Anyone ever come across a kind reggie ?

Mobeen
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Hi,
Thought I would post this here since it is related. What if you give your apartment owner notice and then change your mind ? I guess it all depends on how kind the owner or reggie wants to be. Anyone ever come across a kind reggie ?

Mobeen
We had to delay our leaving date twice, for a total of four months as our house-build ran late.
The regie were sympathetic to the problem and didn't directly cause us grief about the change in dates.

However they did make us pay in that they put us through hell during the 'showing the flat to prospective tenants' process. Expecting us to answer the phone at all hours (as they'd given out our private number on their web-site) and expected us to be avaliable to people who dropped in on the off chance that we'd let them visit there and then.
I've since discovered that they aren't allowed to do this, and have posted elsewhere about how you should arrange an 'open day' or restrict these visits to a couple of hours/evenings a week.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

'Kind Regie' funny stuff...oxymoron, no doubt....

At any rate, our contract says 4 months notice. We were travelling, and also had some uncertainties, and gave notice less than one week into the four month notice period. Of course, Regie says we are responsible for the entire automatic renewal of one year. Do we have any recourse? We offered to extend a month to give the requisite 4 months, but doubt that will fly.

Related, we are on B permits and cannot, as non-EU folk, i don't think, rent an apartment, own a car, etc. if the permit is terminated (due to the job ending). Can we be legally responsible for rent on a home that we cannot legally reside in?

Thanks for any advice/links/information. And here's to hoping exiting Switzerland is less confusing and expensive than entering it was...
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

Response from Regie is of the typically inflexible variety: no one month extension and still tied to a year renewal. Sigh.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

Sorry to hear about your situation. Yes, "kind regie" is an oxymoron.
First apartment we rented was direct with owner. When it came time for us to move he "kindly" accepted one month notice as long as we found a replacement tenant.
If you find a replacement tenant, will your regie let you out of the contract ? If, yes, then post an advert on homegate and in no time you will have people lining up to rent your apartment.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

Thanks. Yes, if a new tenant is found, then no problem. Nice risk mitigation strategy for the Regie. Given housing markets in La Cote, I doubt it will be a huge issue, but without any control over 1)rental rate 2) acceptance of new tenant, it certainly smacks of stacking all of the cards in the Regie's hand and all the risk on us...
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

So, I gave notice 3 months before my rental contract ended, regie accepted, but now I need to extend my lease for 6 to 9 months. I have attempted to contact the regie by phone and written e-mail, but have not received any response. As far as I know there aren't any prospective tenants interested in our apartment.
I guess I am at the mercy of my "kind" regie.
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Thanks a lot
so we dont have to let him know we wont be extending then ?
But what about if we want to stay, (which we do) someone told me that they have to give you notice that they wont be extending to give you time to find somewhere new
but dont know how much notice or if this is true
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Dont' be so sure you don't have to notify your landlord. Some contracts automatically renew. Read your contract.
I would just tell them, no need to hide what your plans are as they will come to know anyway. Also, if you decided to stay, and you were upfront with them, then it may make things go easier.

I wonder, are contracts common? I only have a three month agreement for notice.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

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So, I gave notice 3 months before my rental contract ended, regie accepted, but now I need to extend my lease for 6 to 9 months. I have attempted to contact the regie by phone and written e-mail, but have not received any response. As far as I know there aren't any prospective tenants interested in our apartment.
I guess I am at the mercy of my "kind" regie.
If you can't get hold of them any other way then I'd suggest physically turning up at their offices and talking to them to explain the situation.
Don't assume that just because they haven't bothered to informed you ifthey've got someone lined up for the flat or not it doesn't mean that they haven't.... and given the housing situation in Geneva at the moment I'd be flabbergasted if they weren't going to move someone in the second the flat's empty!
Please don't wait until they contact you to arrange the pre-checkout visit, it'll be too late by then.
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If you can't get hold of them any other way then I'd suggest physically turning up at their offices and talking to them to explain the situation.
Don't assume that just because they haven't bothered to informed you ifthey've got someone lined up for the flat or not it doesn't mean that they haven't.... and given the housing situation in Geneva at the moment I'd be flabbergasted if they weren't going to move someone in the second the flat's empty!
Please don't wait until they contact you to arrange the pre-checkout visit, it'll be too late by then.
Thanx for the information. I did finally get in touch with the regie and she agreed to extending our lease verbally. Now I am waiting for written confrimation.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

Sorry to drag up an old post -- but hey it shows i tried searching a little

Again is there any assumptions to be made at end of lease time? As in do they (landlord or regie) assume you are leaving unless you say otherwise or is it opposite or case by case?

My three years is up in May.. I have a possibility of another place June/July. So my timing is maybe a bit strange..
For example I probably won't know for sure about new place until April.. If I'm exiting here in May I should have already give notice here in February?

I'm gonna call the reg tomorrow but although I'm definitely not trying to hide anything -- I'm sort of not sure about showing my hand yet on the other place until I know if it's a definite option. But then it might be too late.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

Depends on what your contract says. When we rented it was for an initial year with a 6 months notification from either party to terminate, otherwise it just kept going. Stayed there for 12 years until the landlord finally decided he wanted to sell and so gave us the 6 months' notice.
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Depends on what your contract says. When we rented it was for an initial year with a 6 months notification from either party to terminate, otherwise it just kept going. Stayed there for 12 years until the landlord finally decided he wanted to sell and so gave us the 6 months' notice.
Oh well .. Seems to be very simple after speaking to regie. Lease rolls on if we do nothing.
I give her 3 months notice to leave, she gives me 3 months notice to leave. Nothing to see here, drive through.
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Oh well .. Seems to be very simple after speaking to regie. Lease rolls on if we do nothing.
I give her 3 months notice to leave, she gives me 3 months notice to leave. Nothing to see here, drive through.
That's the standard arrangement here. It probably actually says that on your lease somewhere, it did on ours which was just the standard lease.
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Re: End of lease or renewal agreement ..How does it work please ?

Our tenants have been with us for a few years. They were originally on a 1 year lease
After the first year, we did not formally renew the lease, they just kept on paying; they asked to reduce the rent and we allowed a reduction.

Now I think they want to leave, they keep asking for substantial improvements like new condensing dryer, (the house never had a dryer) steam oven, cellar insulation, extra ventilation in Kitchen etc.
Which as we have reduced the rent to SFr. 1600 for a 5.5 room house is beyond what we can afford. Plus we have to in any case, repaint the house as it is coming up to its 8 years since last repaint. The cost of repainting is Sfr 8000

How much notice do they have to give? Are we obliged to make all the improvements they ask for?
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