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Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

So, I've just arrived in Geneva and am getting this wonderful apartment in the center of town for a reasonable price. The person offering it tells me she is moving out for 3 months. I am more than happy to take the place, however, she is not willing to sign any contract, as she says that she herself is a subletter and she can't tell the original owner about my presence.

She says this is quite normal in Geneva, and if anyone comes knocking I should just say that she's out and I'm a friend. I dont have to pay any security deposit.

I was wondering, in such a situation, what is the worst that can happen to me in case the authorities/original owner find out? Will I be evicted? Or even worse, arrested? I am fine with the risk of eviction, but an arrest would be a greater risk I am not willing to take. Also, is this really a common practice in Geneva?

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Old 01.09.2011, 02:07
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

You're a friend of the subletter, staying tehre with her permission. Why would anyone arrest you?

You're lucky to find somewhere to live in Geneva. My opinion (for what it's worth, which tends to zero, since I'm not legally qualified): go for it. And good luck.

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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

We did this three times three months in Geneva before we found a place to live. But each time we were subletting from friends of friends. So, I can't tell you the consequences. In fact we didn't even consider there would be any consequences.

You pays your money and you takes your chances.
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

If it is only three months I wouldn't be worried. As long as she pays her rent on time who's to know where the money is coming from. Perhaps try not to have loud parties etc!!
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

What happens if the heating breaks down, or the kitchen floods, etc? Or in case of damage caused to floor or other appliances, etc. I must say I'd be very careful with such arrangements myself.
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

Whatever happens (usually cancellation of the rental contract) will happen to the original lessee and not you. In any case that kind of process takes more than 3 months. Odile is right though that your friend needs to be able to contact the regie if anything goes wrong.
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

Are you sure it's not a scam?

Sounds almost too good to be true--available, reasonable rent, in the center of town, no deposit.

Definitlely raises my defenses on more than one issue.

Anyhow, illegal sublets are very common in Geneva, but the authorities are starting to crack down on them.
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Old 01.09.2011, 13:35
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

The only thing I'd be worried about is your legal address which you are required to have.
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

Very true, you should register there, easier before your friend leaves.
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

I didn't think about flooding or things like that!! I was just totally amazed that he found a sublet without a deposit!!

And make sure she has the household insurance.
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

I didn't have to pay a deposit for either of the rooms I've rented in Geneva. One was a sublet, the other a sublet of a sublet - but the landlady had agreed to it. I didn't have to sign a contract either.

In your situation, the one thing I would be worried about, as simon_ch pointed out, is to have a proof of address to register here.
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Re: Subletting a sublet -- What's the worst that can happen?

Did it twice while looking for a flat. One charged a deposit, other didn´t. Both worked out.
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