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Appliance servicing on moving

I've been told we need to get our washing machine, tumble drier and dish washer serviced when we move. Is that right? Anyone know a decent Company to do the honours?

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Re: Appliance servicing on moving

I'm in the process of moving out and was also told to have the appliances (only a dishwasher in my case) serviced and chimney swept.
Being a distrustful kind of person I decided to organize this myself rather than let the agency do it.
As such, dishwasher serviced by Herr Bernhardt Knut, (079 291 5086). He speaks perfect english, fast and efficient. He services/repairs all domestic appliances.
Chimney swept by Herr Tobias Bigger, (0774 31 5128), Swiss or High German only, again, fast and efficient.
Happy to recommend them both. Both Basel based.
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As such, dishwasher serviced by Herr Bernhardt Knut, (079 291 5086). He speaks perfect english, fast and efficient. He services/repairs all domestic appliances.
I just called Herr Knut and he does not speak English! Plus, he only services Basel (just in case people thought he may travel...)
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I just called Herr Knut and he does not speak English! Plus, he only services Basel (just in case people thought he may travel...)

Did you find any alternative in Zúrich? Hope you did it after 5 years!
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Re: Appliance servicing on moving

This can be avoided by quoting a Swiss law.

http://www.beobachter.ch/dossiers/do...schirrspueler/

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With regard to maintenance and inspection of washing machines and dishwashers relied on the landlord, the tenants would be contractually obliged to take out service contracts for these devices. However, such an obligation is not valid according to court if the landlord wants to pass on his maintenance obligation on the tenant. Tenants are expected more than the cost of a pure functional check be imposed, in the form of "incidental expenses". That should the lease but rules expressly so, and that was not the case.

Judgment of the Court of 27 Bernese July 2012 (ZK 12157)

http://www.beobachter.ch/wohnen/umzu...-da-noch-was/#




Showing translation for Kein Service inklusive? Bei der Service Verpflichtung sieht es wieder anders aus. Ruedi Spöndlin, Rechtsberater beim Schweizerischen Mieterinnen- und Mieterverband, sagt dazu: «Vereinbarungen, in denen sich Mieter im Voraus - etwa im Mietvertrag - verpflichten, bei Beendigung des Mietverhältnisses mehr als allfällige Mieterschäden zu übernehmen, sind nichtig. Deshalb kann die Vermieterschaft trotz vertraglicher Bestimmung auch keinen Geräteservice fordern.» Konkret bedeutet das: Nur falls ein Service zur Behebung eines durch unsachgemässe Handhabung enstandenen Mangels notwendig ist, muss der Mieter dafür bezahlen. «Ganz eindeutig ist die Rechtslage aber nicht», ergänzt Spöndlin, ausserdem seien «wie immer, wenn es nicht um allzu hohe Beträge geht, keine klärenden Gerichtsurteile dazu bekannt». Und hier geht es meist um geringe Beträge. Denn mehr als den kleinen Unterhalt - meist maximal 150 Franken - muss ein Mieter nicht berappen, wenn er den Mangel nicht selber verursacht hat.Translate instead Kein Service inklusive? Bei der Serviceverpflichtung sieht es wieder anders aus. Ruedi Spöndlin, Rechtsberater beim Schweizerischen Mieterinnen- und Mieterverband, sagt dazu: «Vereinbarungen, in denen sich Mieter im Voraus - etwa im Mietvertrag - verpflichten, bei Beendigung des Mietverhältnisses mehr als allfällige Mieterschäden zu übernehmen, sind nichtig. Deshalb kann die Vermieterschaft trotz vertraglicher Bestimmung auch keinen Geräteservice fordern.» Konkret bedeutet das: Nur falls ein Service zur Behebung eines durch unsachgemässe Handhabung enstandenen Mangels notwendig ist, muss der Mieter dafür bezahlen. «Ganz eindeutig ist die Rechtslage aber nicht», ergänzt Spöndlin, ausserdem seien «wie immer, wenn es nicht um allzu hohe Beträge geht, keine klärenden Gerichtsurteile dazu bekannt». Und hier geht es meist um geringe Beträge. Denn mehr als den kleinen Unterhalt - meist maximal 150 Franken - muss ein Mieter nicht berappen, wenn er den Mangel nicht selber verursacht hat.



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In the service obligation, it looks different. Ruedi Spoendlin, legal advisor at the Swiss Tenants' Association, said: "agreements in which tenants are in advance - as in the lease - undertake to take over any damage caused by tenants at termination of the lease, are null and void. Therefore, the landlord shaft may ask no equipment service despite a contractual provision "Specifically, this means:. Only if a service to fix a space resulting from improper handling defect is necessary, the tenant must pay for it. "Clearly, the legal situation is not, however," adds Spoendlin, also were "as always, if it is not about excessively high amounts, no known clarifying court decisions to». And here it usually comes to small amounts. Because more than the little maintenance - usually a maximum of 150 francs - need not shell out a tenant, if he has the defect is not caused by you.
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A good idea is to join the tenant's association, ASLOC or Mietverein, and pay for them to attend the handover and avoid being swindled by agents and landlords.
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Re: Appliance servicing on moving

Hello. Anybody can recommend this service in Zurich Oerlikon area?
Thanks!
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Hello. Anybody can recommend this service in Zurich Oerlikon area?
Thanks!
This is your first post, so I will be considerate.

It is customary to read the thread before posting a question, just in case someone has already posted the answer you are seeking. RTFM
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It is customary to read the thread before posting a question, just in case someone has already posted the answer you are seeking. RTFM
Thank you. I am sorry if I missed something. I read the whole thread before posting my question but I did not find the answer. I just see one post about some guy from Basel doing it.

However there is another thread on the forum where you recommend VZUG and FUST. My machines are not VZUG, and FUST was not recommended by another user.
If you believe the information is in this thread already, can you please guide me a little?

Thanks a lot.
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Re: Appliance servicing on moving

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Thank you. I am sorry if I missed something. I read the whole thread before posting my question but I did not find the answer. I just see one post about some guy from Basel doing it.

However there is another thread on the forum where you recommend VZUG and FUST. My machines are not VZUG, and FUST was not recommended by another user.
If you believe the information is in this thread already, can you please guide me a little?

Thanks a lot.
Get in touch with the Kundendienst of the Brand. In my case, it was VZUG. I paid 215 CHF for a 30 minutes job to check 3 machines... The technician came home at 8am, punctual like a Swiss train. He didn't do anything I had not done before, but we got a nice letter saying they had been checked professionally...attached to the orange bills .
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Re: Appliance servicing on moving

Can't you do the servicing yourself? It is basically not more than cleaning.

Also read Sbrinz's post.
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Can't you do the servicing yourself? It is basically not more than cleaning.

Also read Sbrinz's post.
In my case, the Verwaltung asked for the "paper" that costs 215 CHF. But, agree, it is not more than cleaning filters.
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