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Hi there, would like to find out if you are able to haggle when it comes to negotiating rental price. Is there anyone here who was successful, if yes by how much? Was it landlord or agency?
We're considering something relatively small, ca. 2,5 rooms up to 1800CHF in Kanton Zug or Schwyz

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Demand > Supply in many areas
Haggling therefore may lead to disappointment.
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Hi there, would like to find out if you are able to haggle when it comes to negotiating rental price. Is there anyone here who was successful, if yes by how much? Was it landlord or agency?
We're considering something relatively small, ca. 2,5 rooms up to 1800CHF in Kanton Zug or Schwyz

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It's supply & demand, as a foreigner you may not get offered that many apartments. Other applicants will get chosen!
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I have never heard of anyone successfully haggling here for anything.
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Re: Haggling

to be honest you will be lucky to even get to a stage to be able to haggle!
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Thanks guys... I thought everything would be very stiff, just wanted to know from experience. Ok this is one thing to even think of...

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Re: Haggling

Well I haven't tried here but it has worked for me in Britain. Still, it's like anything in life - how does the landlord benefit?

Where I've done it, there was a benefit for the landlord. For instance, I once negotiated a significantly cheaper monthly rent by paying the first year up front at the start of the contract.
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Perfectly said. Depending on location, you might be able to haggle- but only if you have something to offer- and only with an individual proprietor- say help with the garden, or -re-decorate/improve yourself, look after their dog when away. My parents did haggle with their last rent this way- but it very rarely works, especially if not known in the community.

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Re: Haggling

I disagree that it is impossible here, I have haggled successfully many times in Switzerland. (Failed spectacularly once or twice too) Couple of points though...

1. The Swiss are absolutely cr@p at it...so you have to be gentle and take it slowly. They are just very bad negotiators here and tend not to be able to find "common ground" so...

2. Make sure that there is something in it for them. What can you offer that is better than the next person? Longer contract? Faster payment? Larger deposit? Longer notice period? If you can offer something in exchange for your request, and do it with a smile...you will have a greater chance of success.

But DON'T try hard ball tactics - they will absolutely not work because as others have said, there will be a queue of people
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Forgot to say that if you even want to attempt this- you need excellent language skills (in the local language not ā la Rowan Atkinson advert).
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And you have to be careful that you don't offend them so it's very much about the nature in which you try to haggle in my opinion..
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Re: Haggling

I was able to get my temperaory apartment for a good % discount if I stay over 6 month. The condition is that if I do leave before 6 month is up, then I have to pay the difference. I suppose for them there is no incentive as they are in much demand but I did ask very nicely in an email..
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The apartment situation is still tight as a drum in Zug, and expats with permits and much larger salaries are getting knocked back regularily. A friend lives in a basic 1 bed rathole in Zug, which is not far off it's reno, and he's CHF 1680 pm. 2 others I know have quite nice places in Zug, but still I bedroomed and one is CHF 1950 the other is CHF 2360.

In another thread you mentioned CHF25 ph gross for a salary, and here you say we. So if there isn't another salary, those rents would be a huge chunk of your CHF 4k gross pm, and I can't see how that low a figure could possibly make you an attractive proposition when the rule of thumb seems to be max 1/3 of net salary. That would put you down at CHF1,100 (ish) and in flat share territory.... So haggling no, grateful for what you might get luck to be offered, yes.
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